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Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by cycomanic on Sunday May 22, 2022 @12:37PM (#31470030)
I had a cycling accident when out training on a road bike coming down a hill doing about 50km/h and a delivery van turned in front of me into a parking lot. I hit the side of the van put a big dent in it and fractured my clavicle and t6 and had several cuts in my face. The helmet I was wearing was completely disintegrated on the side I hit the car with. Fortunately I was visiting Australia were cycling helmets were mandatory, back in Europe were i was living normally i would not have worn one.

Since then I always were a helmet when out training. However I don't wear a helmet when dropping off the kids with my cargo bike. It's true that drivers are more aggressive towards helmet wearers, moreover I can't think of an accident where a helmet would help when I'm on the cargo bike.

Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by cameronh90 on Sunday May 22, 2022 @05:25PM (#31472959)
I had a cycling accident where I misjudged how tight a corner was, ran off the path, high sided and head planted into a tree. I wasn't going fast, maybe 10mph, but clearly too fast for the corner. First injury in over 15 years of cycling. Nobody else involved, indeed, nobody else in earshot, let alone cars.

My friend was cycling up a hill on a cycle route and his handlebars fell apart. Not sure why, think it was metal fatigue - they split down the fork. He woke up on the floor with his helmet in tens of pieces and with no idea what happened.

Things can just go wrong quickly on two wheels, and the outcome is often smashing your head on something.

Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by op00to on Sunday May 22, 2022 @12:52PM (#31470210)
> it’s true that drivers are more aggressive towards helmet wearers

Citation, please?

> can't think of an accident where a helmet would help when I'm on the cargo bike.

Right hook.

Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by ndsipa_pomu on Sunday May 22, 2022 @01:35PM (#31470677)
There's this Ian Walker study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00014...

It's a small sample size, so take with a pinch of salt.

Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by alan99999 on Friday June 03, 2022 @05:57AM (#31606303)
What Ian Walker's study failed to do was measure the amount of traffic, let alone the oncoming traffic. As he did different parts of his data collection on different days and on different roads, this key measure which often affects how far a car is able to move out going past a cyclist is a very obvious parameter to take into account. Ian's data set has times of passes in it so it might be possible to crate a proxy for traffic density but I haven't attempted this. I think it's more valid to conclude this study has no credence than to draw any conclusion from it.
Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by threeseed on Sunday May 22, 2022 @01:53PM (#31470876)
Refutation of the Walker study which "assesses the extent to which the sample size in the original analysis may have contributed to spurious results".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3783373/

Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by ndsipa_pomu on Sunday May 22, 2022 @02:22PM (#31471178)
Response to the refutation: https://researchportal.bath.ac.uk/en/publications/bicycle-he...

Olivier and Walter re-analysed the same data in 2013 and claimed helmet wearing was not associated with close vehicle passing. Here we show how Olivier and Walter’s analysis addressed a subtly, but importantly, different question than Walker’s. Their conclusion was based on omitting information about variability in driver behaviour and instead dividing overtakes into two binary categories of ‘close’ and ‘not close’; we demonstrate that they did not justify or address the implications of this choice, did not have sufficient statistical power for their approach, and moreover show that slightly adjusting their definition of ‘close’ would reverse their conclusions. We then present a new analysis of the original dataset, measuring directly the extent to which drivers changed their behaviour in response to helmet wearing. This analysis confirms that drivers did, overall, get closer when the rider wore a helmet.

Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by u801e on Sunday May 22, 2022 @03:25PM (#31471770)
You can largely avoid right hooks by riding in the primary position/take the general purpose lane by default rather than riding towards the edge or in the bike lane.
Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by tboughen on Sunday May 22, 2022 @01:07PM (#31470387)
“cyclists were given 8.5cm (3.3 inches) more clearance by cars if they were not wearing helmets.”

https://helmets.org/walkerstudy.htm

Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by threeseed on Sunday May 22, 2022 @01:14PM (#31470449)
You know that the article you posted was about refuting this claim:

"After re-analysis of Walker's data, helmet wearing is not associated with close motor vehicle passing"

Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by KennyBlanken on Sunday May 22, 2022 @02:55PM (#31471504)
As discussed above: the "re-analysis" took an analog measurement, filtered it into a binary "close" or "not close" at an arbitrary distance threshold, and then patted themselves on the back when the found there was no difference.
Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by i_am_jl on Sunday May 22, 2022 @01:23PM (#31470543)
Confirmation bias machine strikes again.
Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by abandonliberty on Tuesday May 24, 2022 @04:56PM (#31497461)
The distance from your head to the ground on a bike is sufficient to cause serious injury of you just fall off. Your individual risk is very low, because you don't fall of bikes often. But multiplied across millions in the population, it starts to make a difference.
Re:Pedal Me bans staff riders from wearing helmets for safet... by wlecometo on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @04:42AM (#31651446)
the same argument might work for walking, but none is suggesting to have helmets while walking