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Re:Ask HN: What's your greatest enjoyment in life? by deltaonefour on Saturday May 21, 2022 @09:40PM (#31464084)
To clarify the scientific inquiry that measures happiness is simply asking people how happy they were on a scale of 1 to 10.

On average people with kids would rate their happiness lower, but when these people are asked whether having kids made them happier they would say yes.

So are they happier? Not sure. Could be exactly as you say, but in one sense that bug may actually mean they are truly happier.

Re:Ask HN: What's your greatest enjoyment in life? by v-erne on Sunday May 22, 2022 @09:49AM (#31468174)
>> but when these people are asked whether having kids made them happier they would say yes

This can be quite easily explained by peer pressure - You are expected to treat children as precious little gifts from god, and speaking ill about them makes you look bad in the eyes of your peers.

Re:Ask HN: What's your greatest enjoyment in life? by deltaonefour on Sunday May 22, 2022 @02:01PM (#31470965)
Anecdotally I've asked close friends for genuine answers and from my perspective they seem convinced they are happier.

That being said I have also (fewer) close friends who have told me they are less happy. So you have a point.

Re:Ask HN: What's your greatest enjoyment in life? by agent008t on Monday May 23, 2022 @10:33AM (#31479546)
They are in a situation they now cannot realistically change and that they are 'supposed' to enjoy. There is a lot of pressure to convince themselves they are now happier 'overall', even if actually each of their days is now less happy.

The fact is, you will encounter plenty of misery in life regardless. You should not choose based on what makes you happy, but arguably based on what kinds of misery you are more suited to - the misery of having children or the misery of not having children.

Re:Ask HN: What's your greatest enjoyment in life? by v-erne on Sunday May 22, 2022 @03:56PM (#31472089)
I'm sure that there are people that genuinly create happines from interacting with and having children. Just like there are people that takes pleasure in hurting themselves. The real tragedy is You cannot know which one are You until is too late.