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Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by Biologist123 on Saturday May 21, 2022 @04:04AM (#31456144)
Common Wealth have done a bit of work on “platform cooperatives”, you can start looking there. My start-up is structured as an employee owned cooperative. We started with a grant which got us to product market fit on a part time basis - and are now “default alive” in our current structure. I should add that we applied to and were rejected by Y Combinator after interview (narrowly a/c the rejection email). At that point I started looking around for other options. After the YC rejection I realised we were not a potential unicorn, although will in all likelihood be profitable. That realisation was incredibly helpful as it spurred me to look into ways that would not depend on fashioning ourselves as a VC casino chip. We can also build the enterprise we want to run, rather than something that appeals to a narrow (but important) class of investors.

Edit: What do you define as “successful”? We are not successful on VC metrics. But we’re happy with what we’ve built and it will make us a bit of money.

Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by BerislavLopac on Saturday May 21, 2022 @05:24AM (#31456481)
In this case, "successful" means making enough money to provide the members with comfortable living, or better than that.
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by meamin on Saturday May 21, 2022 @02:16PM (#31460378)
I would love to chat about your company structure if you have time. I have an interest in forming a cooperative myself. My email is in the profile.
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by Biologist123 on Saturday May 21, 2022 @04:28PM (#31461498)
Hi - I don’t see an email address in your profile.
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by meamin on Sunday May 22, 2022 @06:59PM (#31473644)
Added, sorry and thanks :)
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by _448 on Monday May 23, 2022 @07:23AM (#31477603)
I think you should do a 101 on this subject. Lot of HNers will be interested. A zoom call maybe?
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by cheshire_cat on Saturday May 21, 2022 @07:04AM (#31456862)
What is your definition of a startup? You can find a well maintained list of tech cooperatives from all over the world at https://github.com/hng/tech-coops.
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by usr1106 on Saturday May 21, 2022 @11:04AM (#31458512)
Related submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31456918 (not sure whether any of them can be counted as startup)
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by cheshire_cat on Saturday May 21, 2022 @06:36PM (#31462691)
One of the responses[0] is from someone working at kantree[1]. They are talking about raising funds and building a product, which I assume would somewhat qualify.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31459041 [1] https://kantree.io

Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by COil on Saturday May 21, 2022 @05:16AM (#31456448)
In France, there is Les Tilleuls, https://les-tilleuls.coop/en (creator of API platform, PHP/Symfony/JavaScript/GO contributors)
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by sokoloff on Saturday May 21, 2022 @05:14AM (#31456434)
It seems like the prime difficulty in getting off the ground with a fully employee-owned entity is the startup losses (especially in cash flow terms) inherent in almost every business have to be borne by the employees.

That’s easier when the losses are small and the absence of salary is easier to take if you do it part-time (the “5 to 9er” lifestyle).

Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by BerislavLopac on Saturday May 21, 2022 @01:50PM (#31460143)
There are cooperative models that allow for external investments.
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by marban on Saturday May 21, 2022 @03:04AM (#31455878)
Can you further define? Sounds like you're looking for an incubator.
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by embik on Saturday May 21, 2022 @03:17AM (#31455947)
I am pretty sure that OP is looking for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative - so a tech startup that is owned by its employees, a worker cooperative.
Re:Ask HN: Any Tech Startup Cooperatives? by BerislavLopac on Saturday May 21, 2022 @05:22AM (#31456473)
That's correct, except (as noted in the Wikipedia article) there are many forms of cooperatives, some of which include customers as owners, and some even allow for external investment.