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Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by daenz on Friday May 20, 2022 @05:50PM (#31452961)
>except the countless hours my parents have spent helping her.

Wouldn't you be happy if more people were like your parents? If there were "expensive doctors" who felt in their hearts the need to help your aunt, free of charge? It's not an imaginary world, it just takes work to build. But the further we replace the spirit of charity with an impersonal, dysfunctional system of coercion, the harder it is to realize that world.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by jnovek on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:22PM (#31453248)
So I take it that you host a disabled person in your home, then?

What’s even better is, this system already exists and is being utilized beyond its breaking point.

How do I know? Well, it takes 1 to 2 YEARS to be approved for SSI or SSDI and, if you can’t work, someone has to pay for your basic cost of living. Or you become homeless.

Anyone who is applying for SSDI and isn’t homeless is being supported by someone.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by UncleMeat on Friday May 20, 2022 @07:21PM (#31453787)
My favorite one is the process of moving between states on medicaid.

My parents wanted to retire another state. My aunt needed to come with them because they handle a large amount of her care. She was unable to apply for medicaid in the new state until dropping medicaid in the old state but there was no guarantee that she'd get medicaid in the new state. So moving was incredibly perilous.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by daenz on Friday May 20, 2022 @07:11PM (#31453708)
We may be hosting my partner's aunt or grandmother soon, since they will likely have nobody closer to look after them. Did I pass your "is a good person" test?
Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by jnovek on Friday May 20, 2022 @08:08PM (#31454077)
OK, topic shift.

In all seriousness, I appreciate it. No snark, I don’t care if we don’t see eye-to-eye from a policy perspective, I appreciate what you’re doing.

Disability is a really hard experience. I can’t describe what it’s like to lose these things we take for granted. Being without pain. Making choices for yourself. Going to a movie.

By giving a disabled person a home, you’re giving some of that back to them. If you’ve never done this before, you might be surprised by how hard it is, the rewards for the disabled person aren’t necessarily always visible, but what you’re doing is important.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by goodpoint on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:51PM (#31453527)
> the further we replace the spirit of charity with an impersonal, dysfunctional system of coercion

This is a pretty dishonest strawman on many levels. First, taxation-based disability support is "spirit of charity" at scale.

Second, local charity is not mutually exclusive with disability support and talking about "replace" makes a strawman.

Third, local charity is in no way guaranteed. Something happens and suddenly charities run out of funds and disabled people can die of hunger.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by daenz on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:52PM (#31453545)
>First, taxation-based disability support is "spirit of charity" at scale.

I invite you to not pay your taxes and watch what happens.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by goodpoint on Friday May 20, 2022 @09:19PM (#31454436)
As an individual? I would be coerced to do so - as it should be.

As a society? Societies are perfectly free to decide to stop taxation.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by daenz on Friday May 20, 2022 @11:10PM (#31454937)
"Society" is not some autonomous external being that is free to do how it pleases. It is composed of individuals making decisions. If the decisions of the individuals are coerced, then the society's aggregate behavior is coerced.

Even if you could make that argument that coerced individual decisions could result in non-coerced societal decisions, you need to consider the entire implication: society is being "charitable" to itself, which isn't charity, it's selfishness. Charity is giving to others. So your point is nonsensical on multiple levels.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by goodpoint on Saturday May 21, 2022 @10:10AM (#31458085)
Nice trolling.
Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by UncleMeat on Friday May 20, 2022 @07:18PM (#31453762)
> Wouldn't you be happy if more people were like your parents?

I would, yes. But just hoping that the world is filled with people who are willing and capable of helping in this manner is not productive. Almost nobody has the time and resources and will to help in the ways that my parents have.

> If there were "expensive doctors" who felt in their hearts the need to help your aunt, free of charge?

That'd be nice too. I do not expect this to be a thing I can rely on.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by Sohcahtoa82 on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:33PM (#31453356)
> If there were "expensive doctors" who felt in their hearts the need to help your aunt, free of charge?

Hard to do when malpractice lawsuits are a thing.

Re:Policy punishes disabled people who save more than $2k by daenz on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:52PM (#31453537)
Good thing healthcare professionals have malpractice insurance?