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Re:The cryptocurrency sell-off has exposed those swimming naked by adastra22 on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:16AM (#31445414)
There is literally not a single thing true in this comment. I would advise you seriously revaluate where you are getting your (mis)information from.

Lightning is a way of using bitcoin. A way of cooperatively creating bitcoin transactions with multiple parties, in such a way that you can minimize the number of on-chain transactions required. It is bitcoin. It has the same security model as bitcoin. It uses the same technology. It is not in any way centralized (it's a p2p network of payment channel connections, with each operator running their own server).

Re:The cryptocurrency sell-off has exposed those swimming naked by tsimionescu on Friday May 20, 2022 @09:01AM (#31446807)
If you and I have a lightning node and a channel between us, and I send 1 BTC to you, this transaction is NOT secured by the bitcoin network, nor any similar technology. It's basically just a regular ledger that my node and yours keep track of (there's a little more cryptography in place, but not much more).

Even worse, if you saw my transaction, then sent me 1BTC worth of goods, then your node becomes offline and I forcefully close the channel with the original balance, I still have my 1BTC and there is no proof anywhere except your node that the transaction ever happened. So no security, unless both nodes are online.

Finally, unless you open direct channels with everyone you want to transact with, you will rely on a 3rd party node that does have such a channel. In practice, this likely means you will use one of a few major nodes that you trust to stay online and not refuse transactions, so the payments are in effect highly centralized.

Re:The cryptocurrency sell-off has exposed those swimming naked by gitfan86 on Friday May 20, 2022 @09:41AM (#31447234)
It is almost like 99.999% of the crypto people don't have computer engineering or computer science degrees or have never built a production system that requires concurrency and fault tolerance over a persistence layer.

A system that validates new entries into a database can either be "very cheap and very fast" or "very fault tolerant and very decentralized". The speed of light in networking and the speed of modern CPUs make this unavoidable.

Re:The cryptocurrency sell-off has exposed those swimming naked by imtringued on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:59AM (#31445702)
Lightning is a decentralised PayPal equivalent. Nothing more nothing less.