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Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by blobbers on Thursday May 19, 2022 @07:26PM (#31441520)
Are any VCs willing to post their investment take on this? How bad is the Series A/B/C crunch going to be this time around? What are you telling your LPs and what are you telling your portfolio companies?

I lived through '08 crisis, and have to say a lot of big players got started right after. Uber was just starting out back then; so if you get laid off, maybe go join a flying car start up.

Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by Donald on Thursday May 19, 2022 @08:09PM (#31441849)
Mobile apps were just emerging in 2008 and stimulated VC interest. I think it's unlikely that this current downturn in the business cycle will get saved by the same magnitude of technology entrant.
Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by lumost on Thursday May 19, 2022 @08:51PM (#31442125)
Inflation is high, labor is tight, trade is falling - I'd be willing to take a bet on industrial automation and robotics powered by modern AI and 3-d printing.
Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by practice9 on Thursday May 19, 2022 @09:00PM (#31442174)
XR headsets from big players also coming this or next year, which may bring new use cases and new apps
Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by rmbyrro on Thursday May 19, 2022 @10:39PM (#31442743)
In 2008 you'd have said the same thing, most likely.

Future will be great. Hang tight, it's turbulence. Don't fall for the pessimism.

Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by tshaddox on Friday May 20, 2022 @12:43AM (#31443440)
I don’t think you’d say the same thing in 2008. Sure, you probably wouldn’t be able to predict the magnitude of VC interest or even the timing, but I think that in 2008 smartphones were pretty clearly the hot new emerging product and you didn’t have to be a tech person to see it. Is there something like that now? Maybe electric cars?
Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by nostrademons on Friday May 20, 2022 @02:05AM (#31443907)
In 2008 social networking, casual gaming, and Web 2.0 were the hot new emerging product category. That's what everyone (me included) was founding and funding. Hell, Hacker News dates from that wave.

Mobile was an interesting curiosity that had piqued a lot of interest, but people didn't really know what to make of it. Same with cloud, which had just started with AWS. I remember folding up my casual game-creation startup (think Roblox on the web) in 2008 and thinking of my next move, and briefly thinking "Maybe I'll just go learn Android or iPhone development. Nah, I'd have to completely retool my skillset and I still don't see how something with such a small screen could be useful."

Electric cars are almost certainly not the equivalent today - everybody knows how and why you'd use an electric car, there's billions in capital going into the space, and all the major incumbents have electric car plans.

I'd bet on something like drones, 3D-printing, DeFi, multi-device ecosystems, robotics, or hardware. Look for something that people (particularly kids) are interested in; recently gotten cheap enough for hobbyists to play with it; there are lots of players in the market and few incumbents; limited regulatory barriers; and we don't really know what it's for yet.

Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by troyvit on Friday May 20, 2022 @09:26AM (#31447051)
Electric cars is a good one. So is electric transportation in general. There's been this explosion in diversity of personalized travel in the last few years: e-scooters, e-bikes, e-bike kits, hoverboards, weird electric unicycles. It's like I rarely see the same form of locomotion more than once, and I'm not even in a major metropolitan area.
Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by sroussey on Thursday May 19, 2022 @08:09PM (#31441848)
It’s the other way around: LPs are telling VCs not to expect the allocations they might have expected. I hear 66% reduction from institutions, anecdotally. For several years going forward.

If an institution had 1:1 allocation public:private and public drops 80% then rebalancing will take a while.

If every startup and fund simultaneously took a 80% haircut, things would be smoother, quicker.

Unicorns don’t want to be marked at $200m and $10m preseed don’t want to be the $2m that is far more accurate value.

This dynamic will take a few years… private slowly coming to realize the new reality, public stopping the bleed, and allocations moving more public for several years.

Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by jackcosgrove on Thursday May 19, 2022 @10:49PM (#31442807)
A lot of marquee companies got their start in the 1930s. Labor is cheap, and capital is picky. Plus there's less competition.

The best time to build is when there's blood in the streets.

Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by Fergi on Thursday May 19, 2022 @07:55PM (#31441760)
Re:RIP Good Times (2008) by blobbers on Thursday May 19, 2022 @09:59PM (#31442504)
Thanks for this link!