> I could see Trump saying this jokingly.

Instead of seeing a clear pattern over decades of awful statements and personal quotes, you give him the benefit of the doubt (which he doesn't deserve). Trump perhaps made it this far because one of his true skills is dancing on the line without fully crossing over it, so people that actually enjoy his awful racist ideology can still argue in polite society that "he didn't really mean that"

You can't force someone to see something they've already made up their mind isn't there.

This is a bad faith interaction, it was wrong of me to even attempt dialogue.