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Re:Wafer shortage improvement in sight for 300mm, but not 200mm by edhelas on Thursday May 19, 2022 @12:42PM (#31436920)
Nope same for me.

I want "dumb" devices that just do what their main goals are.

I have a "dumb" fridge, a "dumb" washing machine and even a "dumb" TV that is basically a big screen with some HDMI connectors.

Is is ok if in 2022 we don't actually want those smart devices ?

Re:Wafer shortage improvement in sight for 300mm, but not 200mm by xxpor on Thursday May 19, 2022 @01:10PM (#31437296)
A dumb washing machine where dumb == not connected to wifi: I think most would agree.

A dumb washing machine that doesn't sense the amount of clothes to pick the right amount of water: What is it, 1972 still?

Re:Wafer shortage improvement in sight for 300mm, but not 200mm by iancmceachern on Thursday May 19, 2022 @01:28PM (#31437591)
Exactly. Even in a "dumb" TV there are dozens of ics, lots of complexity that we don't see. Removing the smart TV part removes the equivalent of a roku stick worth of components. It doesn't change the calculus, it's a red hering. Ok, so you remove 4 ics out of 100, still in the same boat.
Re:Wafer shortage improvement in sight for 300mm, but not 200mm by tintor on Thursday May 19, 2022 @02:03PM (#31438045)
I believe instead of word "dumb" you mean "aligned with customer": doesn't steal their data, doesn't extract more money from them, doesn't deny them service, doesn't prevent repair