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Re:Parmigiano Reggiano makers embedding tiny trackers in rin... by zdragnar on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @08:29PM (#31429268)
It's common for plant farmers in smaller countries too. I interviewed at a company that wanted to help banks lend to tiny farmers who have to borrow against future harvests to afford fertilizer / seed / equipment maintenance for the season ahead. Since many of these small farmers are geographically and technologically a long way off from where the banks are at, they don't get great rates because the banks (currently) don't have great tools for assessing the risk of any particular family farm.
Re:Parmigiano Reggiano makers embedding tiny trackers in rin... by brnaftr361 on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @09:21PM (#31429612)
This is how debt peons are made, historically. Kinda sad to see the same patterns in the modern world.
Re:Parmigiano Reggiano makers embedding tiny trackers in rin... by mellavora on Thursday May 19, 2022 @03:22AM (#31431700)
The same pattern is the FOUNDATION of the modern world!

The beauty of the current system is that because everyone has been told they are free, it is their own fault when they get trapped in a debt cycle.

Thus their own moral sense is the jailor.

Re:Parmigiano Reggiano makers embedding tiny trackers in rin... by danuker on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @09:59PM (#31429853)
Getting a bad rate doesn't mean you also accept it.
Re:Parmigiano Reggiano makers embedding tiny trackers in rin... by pempem on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @10:47PM (#31430096)
Having only cheese to create leverage limits your options
Re:Parmigiano Reggiano makers embedding tiny trackers in rin... by brnaftr361 on Thursday May 19, 2022 @12:35AM (#31430824)
Sounded to me like they didn't even have the milk, and like they're in rural areas of developing nations.
Re:Parmigiano Reggiano makers embedding tiny trackers in rin... by Panzer04 on Wednesday May 18, 2022 @09:30PM (#31429671)
Isn’t this the classic use case for debt? Upfront funding to fund an investment?
Re:Parmigiano Reggiano makers embedding tiny trackers in rin... by brnaftr361 on Thursday May 19, 2022 @12:25AM (#31430756)
Hmmm... It's a two party system right? Borrow and lend. Your example is the borrower's half. The lender [supposedly] assumes risk, and presumes the money could be invested in other profitable ventures (opportunity cost), therefore they charge the borrower interest - I think the paradigm goes something like that... Viola double coincidence of needs, deal accepted.

If the farmer has a shit year, the lender has a variety of options for recourse. Including dispossessing the farmer of land. Historically there were other options like selling one's family. You could castrate yourself and hope to God you'll be accepted into court. Debtor's prison I imagine is also a probable consequence. This is doubly offensive when we consider interest, which can often result in multiples of the initial investment, and that many large scale first world lenders have developed world and the IMF backing them basically indicating they're not allowed default.

Hard to say with the information provided, but it seems typical of the trend.

Re:Parmigiano Reggiano makers embedding tiny trackers in rin... by DocTomoe on Thursday May 19, 2022 @03:43AM (#31431841)
... which incidentally is the origin of the Commodity Market.