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Re:The end of Roe will bring about a sea change in the encry... by dragonwriter on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @06:14AM (#31408294)
> I would consider myself pro-life like many others here, and I hold a similar position that even miscarriage and stillbirths should be considered murder. If a woman is pregnant they have a legal obligation to carry that baby to term (at it should be least in civilized, "Red" states). It's a widely held belief here that miscarriages are most likely due to the woman's negligence in the care of her child.

The majority of pregnancy (the vast majority of you count from fertilization, as several new state laws expressly do) naturally and irreducibly end in miscarriage.

Also, even if one were to grant that this was negligent (which is ridiculous) and that zygotes were deserving of the same consideration as born persons, negligent (or even reckless) homicide is generally not murder for any other victim.

Re:The end of Roe will bring about a sea change in the encry... by philsnow on Tuesday May 17, 2022 @07:14AM (#31408745)
Thank you for your careful use of negligence and recklessness (vs the intentionality required for 'murder').

from GP:

> > I would consider myself pro-life like many others here

Just as a data point: GP/spoils19, you don't come off as pro-life the way that I am -- babies aren't the property of the State.

My wife had at least two miscarriages. We both desperately wanted every one of those babies. To imply that my late wife somehow neglected the care of those fetuses would be a very, very ugly accusation.