Web3 is expensive P2P

Re:Web3 is expensive P2P by birracerveza on Monday May 16, 2022 @10:21AM (#31397658)

That's not web3. Web3 should feel no different to the end user than web2, except for the fact they "sign in" via their wallet (Metamask) instead of legacy login mechanisms (Username+password or Google/FB sign ins).

Users shouldn't even pay for gas. Look at orbis.club for an early example of proper web3.

What we saw up until now is not "true" web3, but simply web2 masquerading as such and using web3 as a marketing buzzword.

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Re:Web3 is expensive P2P by lolinder on Monday May 16, 2022 @11:23AM (#31398812)

> That's not web3.

This sentence is emblematic of the major problem with discussions of "web3" right now. There are dozens of different definitions of web3 that all conflict with each other in one way or another; the only thing people seem to agree on is that web3 involves blockchain somehow. With so many different versions, it's hard to have a conversation because any criticism invariably ends up with people jumping in with "well, that's not really web3!"

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Re:Web3 is expensive P2P by Shish2k on Monday May 16, 2022 @11:07AM (#31398530)

> Web3 should feel no different to the end user than web2, except for the fact they "sign in" via their wallet

Ok but we’ve had this technology for decades and nobody cares. Why is doing this via the blockchain suddenly going to make it work?

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Re:Web3 is expensive P2P by withinboredom on Monday May 16, 2022 @12:22PM (#31399693)

When I see a product that is web3 but I don’t even know it’s web3, I’ll take it seriously. It’s like everyone talking about how MeteorJS is better than vanilla js, you just have to rewrite your app. It’s all hype.

React was “just better” than everything else, and flexible. There was hype, for sure. But you’d only discover React by investigating a company’s stack.

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Re:Web3 is expensive P2P by dmitriid on Monday May 16, 2022 @10:44AM (#31398132)

> Web3 should feel no different to the end user than web2

Yes, yes it would feel different. Because every action requires the user to pay.

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Re:Web3 is expensive P2P by birracerveza on Monday May 16, 2022 @10:51AM (#31398259)

Please read my post. Take a look at orbis.club. Users are not required to pay gas for every interaction.

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Re:Web3 is expensive P2P by dmitriid on Monday May 16, 2022 @12:05PM (#31399464)

Storing content on the blockchain is prohibitively expensive. So "web3" is either using centralized non-blockchain solutions, or users will pay for it.

Running "smart" "contracts" which underpin "web3" is not free.

So yeah. If users only consume content, then web3 can be free for those users I guess.

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Re:Web3 is expensive P2P by wahnfrieden on Monday May 16, 2022 @10:49AM (#31398220)

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