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Re:The problem with Bitcoin miners by ssl232 on Sunday May 15, 2022 @05:10PM (#31391167)
An attempt to rewrite the ledger with a 51% attack would be detected almost immediately. The Bitcoin in the rewritten ledger would quickly become worthless, including that belonging to the keys owned by the attacker. All that mining gear used to perform the attack would then be worthless too. This doesn't seem to me like a profitable attack vector once you consider the complete picture.
Re:The problem with Bitcoin miners by Retric on Sunday May 15, 2022 @05:17PM (#31391229)
Shorting Bitcoin doesn’t require you to ever own any Bitcoin. It does require a counter party(s) that would pay out.

The value of the gear is just a question of the future profits it can generate. If that future revenue is less than what you get from the great short then it’s profitable. And that’s assuming you can’t reuse the same equipment for some other purpose.

Re:The problem with Bitcoin miners by louloulou on Sunday May 15, 2022 @05:43PM (#31391435)
> doesn’t require you to ever own any Bitcoin

It requires you to borrow bitcoins from someone -> sell them -> do the attack -> buy them back -> and then return them.

If you could borrow enough bitcoin, and gain enough hash, and crash the price enough for it to be profitable, it could possibly kill Bitcoin. Seems like an insane gamble to me though.

Re:The problem with Bitcoin miners by Retric on Sunday May 15, 2022 @06:21PM (#31391725)
I agree.

That said if I where writing a story I would have the protagonist gain the hashing power first, something strands their assets such as increased electricity prices making mining unprofitable or a next generation of hardware coming out etc. Then they come up with the idea of a big short.

Re:The problem with Bitcoin miners by louloulou on Sunday May 15, 2022 @11:52PM (#31393522)
The cool thing about that also is the hash power can be accumulated secretly and dumped on the network all at once