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Re:Shaped Charges – Sheet of copper going through 1ft of sol... by dragontamer on Saturday May 14, 2022 @11:58PM (#31385147)
> "220 mm penetration of RHA" which is plenty for top armor

I seriously doubt that. Almost all modern tanks have reactive-armor on top.

There's a reason why NLAW has 500+mm penetration AND top-down. NLAW is single-charge (no-tandem), to punch-through reactive armor requires a lot more penetration.

Let alone lol Javelin with top-down, 900mm+ penetration, and tandem charge.

I don't think 200mm or even 400mm is considered reliable today.

Re:Shaped Charges – Sheet of copper going through 1ft of sol... by jhgb on Sunday May 15, 2022 @06:41AM (#31386682)
> Almost all modern tanks have reactive-armor on top.

Well it's good for Ukraine then that Russia doesn't really have a lot of modern tanks.

> Let alone lol Javelin with top-down, 900mm+ penetration, and tandem charge.

A Javelin can engage tanks directly if they're obscured from above of if the distance to target is insufficient for flying on a top-down trajectory, and for those situations it needs the 900mm+ penetration (otherwise the direct attack mode would be unusable and would not be provided as a feature). So you can't make the inference that because Javelin has 900mm+ penetration, top-down attacks require 900mm+ penetration.

Re:Shaped Charges – Sheet of copper going through 1ft of sol... by nyolfen on Sunday May 15, 2022 @12:15AM (#31385210)
you should tell that to the RU tanks getting their lids popped:

https://youtu.be/tI5ABZPw9Us

not sure about nlaw but javelin also features a side targeting mode

Re:Shaped Charges – Sheet of copper going through 1ft of sol... by dragontamer on Sunday May 15, 2022 @01:54AM (#31385551)
> you should tell that to the RU tanks getting their lids popped:

And you should tell that to USA's and Britain's military, which have chosen 400mm penetration (AT4), 500mm top-down penetration (NLAW), and 900mm top-down + tandem penetration (Javelin).

200mm, even top-down, is significantly less than other anti-tank weapons. I presume that the militaries who made these modern weapons know what they're doing.