Great video on the engineering of the Javelin and why it's so simple and effective: https://youtu.be/SUdHzKRiBX8

The Javelin has multiple tricks up its sleeve to defeat sophisticated armor and Russian armor is just behind the curve. It's a literal arms race to add more layers of defense and more layers of attack and right now, NATO is far ahead.

this is compounded by the fact that much of the armor on the ground in ukraine does not actually seem to feature the advanced defenses developed during the soviet era, like ERA. i've seen several photos of what appears to be decoy ERA on destroyed t-72's, which was nothing more than a hollow brick of steel. i suspect graft or a weak economy is the reason.

Forget decoys, some of the videos coming out of Ukraine were showing plenty of Russian tanks with the bags for the reactive armor sagging down clearly only holding the spacers and no ERA plates. It's like the troops believed the cover story that they were only going near the border for a training exercise.

the source of these pictures are all from ukraine. it's not far fetched to think they removed era and planted inert spacer to demoralize the enemy. in general, while the fog of war is in full effect, I wouldn't trust any one-sided intel.

How would fake lack of ERA demoralise the enemy when the enemy is getting destroyed anyhow, even if they have ERA? (And in your scenario, if it did have ERA)

invaders weren't being pushed back when the initial claims circulated.

That takes too much effort, also, Ukrainians know that if they went through all of that effort people would just say exactly what you are saying, so it’s doubly a waste of time And therefore a major risk for their lives.

what a silly, circular argument.

True.

But Ukraine is advancing. So they are winning anyway which indicates that something is going wrong on Russia side and it fits the outcome.

I would argue that based on that you can assume that the Story to be more true than just 50/50

It is rather far fetched however to assume that forces abandoning equipment willy nilly take the time to strip out ERA blocks for some rough idea of a demoralization effect.

I never argued that it was the russian to change the era block, maybe you're answering in the wrong comment thread?

You know, a theme of From the Earth to the Moon by Jules Verne is the longstanding rivalry between weapon makers and armor makers. 150 years after it was written, that bit still seems to hold true.

Alot of things were developed during WW2 like an Earthquake bomb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake_bomb and in the 50's the first of these were developed, a Tsunami bomb https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepa...

A scaled down model of the Möhne dam where the bouncing bomb was used can be found at the BRE site in Watford on your way to the lunch canteen. https://bregroup.com/ipark/parks/england/visit/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouncing_bomb#Re-creating_the_...

There are many more types of active defenses other than reactive armor:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_protection_system

I recently learned that active protection systems have really significant electronic signatures. I’m no expert but I believe that they rely on vehicle mounted radar systems to detect incoming fire.

Take a look at this graphic:

https://sites.breakingmedia.com/uploads/sites/3/2021/07/imag...

The source for this is an advertisement for a Rheinmetal brand APS. So treat it like you would any marketing material.

Nonetheless, if it’s even remotely accurate, I would not want to be part of a tank crew that is visible to surveillance aircraft multiple countries away.

I get the impression these APS systems were designed with low intensity “anti-terror” operations in mind. They’ll do a decent job killing an RPG fired from across the street but they light you up like a Christmas tree. Not a problem if you’re battling ISIS but a significant liability against opponents with modern surveillance capability. Also they’re useless against top attack munitions which seem to be remarkably effective in Ukraine.

Training with shaped charges made my father grateful he ended up in the infantry. They are clever, but seriously nasty.