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Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by planarhobbit on Saturday May 14, 2022 @09:44AM (#31377861)
Intelligence gives you a choice. You can choose to walk away from this as best as you can and go about your life on your own terms. You aren't guaranteed or given anything else.

You may also participate, if you choose.

This seems to be a sticking point among high achievers, but you really need to dial back any societal expectations you may have. You’re here for a short time, and you’re given the option of watching the spectacle at your leisure. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by kurofune on Saturday May 14, 2022 @10:00AM (#31377986)
I would like to stress that "high achiever != intelligent".

And the choice to "walk away from this as best as you can and go about your life on your own terms" is mainly a money issue and not one defined or solved by intelligence.

Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by fao_ on Saturday May 14, 2022 @11:49AM (#31379142)
Yep. A significant fraction of MENSA are in fact "underachievers" -- due to mental illness or poverty or something else.

source: several relatives are members

Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by OkayPhysicist on Saturday May 14, 2022 @03:35PM (#31381534)
I'd imagine there's also a strong selection bias there. It's not like being intelligent automatically makes you a member of MENSA. You also have to want to be a member of a society that uses IQ tests as a selection criteria. I'd imagine that self-selects for people who are intelligent but insecure about other facets of their life.
Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by Raptor22 on Saturday May 14, 2022 @10:48PM (#31384841)
> This seems to be a sticking point among high achievers, but you really need to dial back any societal expectations you may have. You’re here for a short time, and you’re given the option of watching the spectacle at your leisure. Enjoy it while it lasts.

You're right, but understand, it takes many intelligent people years to figure this out. It's such a brutal state of reality that many parents are loathe to explain it so clearly to their children.

In my opinion it is a shame that society is mostly driven by the dumber elements of our species. I know this is pie in the sky, but perhaps in the future when humans are multiplanetary, a group of above average intelligence could choose to colonize a planet and only admit those who are similarly above average intelligence. Would be an interesting experiment to see which planet has faster technological and societal progress over time.

Re:IQ scores are falling and have been for decades (2018) by BeFlatXIII on Saturday May 14, 2022 @03:24PM (#31381442)
> You’re here for a short time, and you’re given the option of watching the spectacle at your leisure. Enjoy it while it lasts.

To quote one of Jim Morrison's stage rants from one of the Doors live albums, "I'm just here to get my kicks in before the whole shithouse goes up flames"