Re:How to get rid of gerrymandering: the math is surprising
by winstonewert on Thursday May 12, 2022 @11:39PM
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As I read the above example, it leaves it undefined which proportional system is in place. As such, the statement is strictly incorrect, because it makes a general statement which isn't true of proportional systems generally.
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Re:How to get rid of gerrymandering: the math is surprising
by thaumasiotes on Friday May 13, 2022 @03:22AM
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If you read the example, you must have noticed that there is no way to interpret it as describing a system of single-transferable-vote.
The example is very explicit that votes are cast for parties and all of the benefit of receiving a vote goes to the party for which it is cast. As such, the model is only coherent if there is no such thing as voting for a candidate.
Re:How to get rid of gerrymandering: the math is surprising
by winstonewert on Friday May 13, 2022 @10:04AM
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The example given mentions voting for parties, but doesn't give explicit indication how this works. Are the votes directly for parties or for candidates from those parties? It doesn't say. I suspect that you see it as explicitly talking about votes directly for parties, but I see it leaving it undefined.
But really, what exactly the original example intended to convey is a pointless pedantic argument I'm not getting into.
The crucial point is that you absolutely can have multi-member proportional districts where you vote for specific candidates. So to someone who advocated for a such multi-member districts, the contention that you have to give up voting for individual candidates simply isn't true.