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Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by mikkergp on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @02:25PM (#31343883)
How so?
Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by Banana699 on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @02:31PM (#31343949)
>> Minority activists don't actually have any political power
Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by mikkergp on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @02:47PM (#31344144)
No I mean, what 'very real power that that transgender ideology holds in US institutions and corporations'. All the political action is bathroom bills and sports bills coming from the right, what political power is the 'transgender ideology' wielding.
Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by Semiapies on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @03:21PM (#31344542)
They have the power to make some assholes uncomfortable, by existing.
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Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by Semiapies on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @11:17PM (#31348896)
You can have a point and make an argument while showing any kind of dignity or intelligence...or you can go looking for a response and titter "u mad?" when you get one.

Looks like you made it clear what you're doing.

Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by Banana699 on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @11:42PM (#31349035)
It's astoundingly funny how you're the one who insulted me in response to my completely insult-free words, and even after your insults I didn't reply in kind, and yet I'm the one lacking dignity and intelligence.

It is a special breed of shamelessness to accuse others of your own vices.

Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by Banana699 on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @04:26PM (#31345277)
>All the political action is bathroom bills and sports bills coming from the right

It's hilariously disingenuous and backward how you mention the reaction to the encroaching transgender ideology without mentioning the action itself that prompted it. The bathroom and sports bills are defensive measures against the ideology infiltrating institutions and allowing the easy access of vulnerable spaces to mentally unstable individuals.

>what political power is the 'transgender ideology' wielding.

Other than

- In [1] an academic professor is fired for publishing a book critical of transgender beliefs

- In [2] a school covered for a trans rapist who raped a teenager in the girls bathroom, he was eventually transfered to another school where he raped a second teenager.

- In [3] an. archeologist is fired for trans critical views

- [4] documents several other cases of harassment perpetrated by trans ideology supporters in academia

- In [5], a British political party struggles with the definition of a woman, party representatives repeatedly refused to answer straightforward questions about basic female biology to avoid angering the trans lobby

- In [6], as in [5], a US Supreme Court judge refused to answer the question "What's a woman", citing that "She's not a biologist".

- The social media giants ban any dissenting discussion. Examples too numerous to mention, and can be empirically reproduced for yourself.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/may/22/kathleen-s...

[2] https://news.yahoo.com/judge-rules-loudoun-county-teen-13141...

[3] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-021-01950-9

[4] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/349967840_The_Gende...

[5] https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/labour-s-refusal-to-acce...

[6] https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/22/blackburn-jackson-d...

Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by mikkergp on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @04:44PM (#31345522)
This is a bunch of stories of people acting individually, this isn't political power. My argument isn't that there aren't people in this world trying to establish their validity in our society, and that those people aren't upsetting other people, just that those people aren't exercising broad systemic political power.

Is your argument that people should just accept their lot in life and not challenge the status quo? Or more that they should do it in a way that doesn't upset anyone.

I see that you have some concerns here, I don't see why your response is to try and ostracize or ban this thing you don't understand.

Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by banannaise on Friday May 13, 2022 @10:54AM (#31368460)
I think he's pretty clear about his reasons:

"The bathroom and sports bills are defensive measures against the ideology infiltrating institutions and allowing the easy access of vulnerable spaces to mentally unstable individuals."

He considers transgender women to be mentally unstable predators who want access to women's spaces in order to attack them.

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Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by mikkergp on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @06:32PM (#31346798)
It seems like it’s hard to believe you’re engaged in honest debate when you argue that all of liberal America is working together to enable pedophiles.

If that’s what you think then this wasn’t the debate I thought it was.

Do you think that all gay people are pedophiles too?

Re:Misperceptions of the opponent fringe and miscalibration ... by Banana699 on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @08:01PM (#31347586)
>when you argue that all of liberal America is working together to enable pedophiles.

I do not argue for this, the existence of a systematic and widespread ideology does not necessarily imply that the ideology is all-powerful or has full support.

But you can't handwave away the rather obvious evidence that this "minority" has some curious methods to impose its will on a whole lot of people, can you ? How is this small, oppressed minority capable of terrifying the heads of political parties and judges of high courts away from answering questions that any 18 years old can reliably answer ? By the power of looking adorable and saying 'Please' ?

>Do you think that all gay people are pedophiles too?

I fail to see why this is relevant to the discussion now, but no. I don't think there is a link between sexual affinity to same sex individuals and sexual affinity to children.