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Re:The ACLU Has Lost Its Way by joshuamorton on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @02:25PM (#31330596)
I never made any comment about women in prison. I have empathy to anyone in prison. Like I said, its deeply inhumane.

I think people in prison should be protected from other people in prison if they are dangerous, and I think prisons fail to do that today. I don't accept your presumption that having a penis makes someone inherently more dangerous.

Again: if your goal is to protect women in prison, the best way to do that is to advocate for reform that makes prisons safer for everyone. Not by being transphobic, which you're doing instead.

Re:The ACLU Has Lost Its Way by denton-scratch on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @02:58PM (#31331094)
> people in prison should be protected from other people in prison

I strongly agree; if you deprive someone of their liberty, then you take on the responsibility of protecting them - because you've deprived them of the ability to protect themselves.

I'm not aware of any prison regime that takes the safety of prisoners as a key objective. [Edit] Nor do I know of a state that handles the deliberate negligence of prisoner welfare as a criminal offence.

Re:The ACLU Has Lost Its Way by jibe on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @04:04PM (#31331963)
I don't accept your presumption that having a penis makes someone inherently more dangerous

The data really really doesn't support your view. Men are objectively more dangerous.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251886/murder-offenders-...

https://stoprape.humboldt.edu/statistics

An estimated 91% of victims of rape & sexual assault are female and 9% male. Nearly 99% of perpetrators are male

Re:The ACLU Has Lost Its Way by TimPC on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @07:23PM (#31333952)
The data showing 99% of perpetrators are male doesn’t count forcible envelopment as rape. In order to rape a man a woman has to penetrate him in some way for example sticking a finger in his ass.
Re:The ACLU Has Lost Its Way by TotempaaltJ on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @04:24PM (#31332194)
It is not the possession of a penis that causes men to be more dangerous.
Re:The ACLU Has Lost Its Way by pessimizer on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @04:31PM (#31332287)
Men share more than the possession of a penis, of course. But saying the possession of a penis doesn't make men more dangerous in the face of male rape is like saying that a pistol doesn't make a man more dangerous.
Re:The ACLU Has Lost Its Way by the_why_of_y on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @06:28PM (#31333495)
Clearly trans women can't be put in men's prisons if men are this dangerous.
Re:The ACLU Has Lost Its Way by cluedos on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @07:24PM (#31333957)
They are men too, if you peel away the veneer of 'gender identity'.
Re:The ACLU Has Lost Its Way by BitwiseFool on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @02:52PM (#31331002)
>"Again: if your goal is to protect women in prison, the best way to do that is to advocate for reform that makes prisons safer for everyone. Not by being transphobic, which you're doing instead. "

Perfect is the enemy of good and while it's hard to disagree with the sentiment of "reform that makes prisons safer for everyone ", we have no idea what that actually entails and that's so much of a monumental task that it's basically a non-starter. I feel like the sentiment here is "this wouldn't be a problem if we changed everything, so why don't we?"