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Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by daenz on Monday May 09, 2022 @08:47PM (#31321939)
Yes, I grew up poor in a single parent household. Generic food brands at discount grocery stores, clothes from thrift stores, etc. I know what being poor is.

>Do you really believe that it is a good thing that they are getting scammed out of what little they have?

Do you really believe that's what I said? I said I have no sympathy for people who choose to lose their money in irresponsible ways. I believe people have agency and they should be held accountable for their decisions. That's part of being an adult. The alternative to that is: daddy government tells everyone what they're allowed to do with their money, because nobody has any responsibility.

Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by Sparkle-san on Monday May 09, 2022 @09:15PM (#31322173)
It doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. Did these people ultimately make the decision themselves? Yes. Do people know that those in poverty are prone to being nudged to make these sorts of "investments" because of the psychology behind scarcity? Also yes. I certainly have sympathy that they're preyed upon.
Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by daenz on Monday May 09, 2022 @09:26PM (#31322269)
Do casinos prey on the vulnerable? Does the state lottery? That's not where I draw the line for "preyed upon." When I think "preyed upon", I think of a con artist who is orchestrating bad situation to make it very difficult to escape from. That bar is much higher than what I see with crypto.
Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by piva00 on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @08:28AM (#31326252)
Preyed upon can use a multitude of psychological biases as tools for the deception. Crypto does that, it masquerades as this new exciting thing that's making a lot of people a lot of money. As any gold rush would tell you, greed will push people to their psyche's limits, they will fall more easily for scams given that the return might be enormous, friends will betray friends to invite them over to their scam being run in the midst of this chaos of greed.

It's a layered preying system it's taxi drivers suddenly making bank from crypto and telling other taxi drivers to join in (as I've seen happening in Brazil). It's a lucky hippie artist stumbling upon a pump-and-dump group when researching stuff for a residency, making bank and explaining to their family how they can also do it. The hippie then starting a community in some tropical paradise and funding it with the schemes they barely understand while helping his friends to join on the pump-and-dump.

People are more willing to join if they can see someone they know recommending them some strategy to make money. A lot of people will think it's iffy and miss out, and feel pretty down when they see others that weren't so smart joining in the hype and making bank. So they might join as well.

If you go to any poor country with internet access right now you'll hear about crypto. In ads, from taxi drivers, from tourism workers, etc., a lot of vulnerable people to be preyed upon and sustain the scam for a little bit longer.

The scammers don't really need to run the scheme anymore, it's self-perpetuating, a meme.

A stochastic system of preying upon financially illiterate, desperate and/or greedy people.

Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by Sparkle-san on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @11:39AM (#31328409)
Casinos absolutely do. There's a litany of stories about casinos enabling gambling addicts by offering them free rooms, drinks, food, flights, whatever it takes, to keep them coming back because they know these people have a psychological condition which they can profit off of. It's exploitation.
Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by daenz on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @11:52AM (#31328586)
Active vs passive is where I draw the line. Passively being enticing is not the same as actively coercing someone to do something. If passively enticing is considered preying, then the number of things in the world that "prey upon" people goes up by orders of magnitude. Fast food restaurants are now preying upon people by posting delicious advertising. It becomes a meaningless term.
Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by yunohn on Wednesday May 11, 2022 @01:48AM (#31336238)
> I believe people have agency and they should be held accountable for their decisions.

Sure, are you in favor of prosecuting the innumerable influencers who convinced them in the first place? Surely they had agency in deciding whether to illegally shill scams or not.

Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by sweezyjeezy on Monday May 09, 2022 @08:52PM (#31321979)
You said they deserve it, most people think it's good when people get what they deserve. You see my confusion.
Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by daenz on Monday May 09, 2022 @09:07PM (#31322098)
You can believe that someone deserves negative outcomes that are the direct consequences of their bad decisions, but also think that neither their decisions nor the consequences are good.
Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by jstrong on Monday May 09, 2022 @11:13PM (#31323009)
> I feel absolutely no sympathy
Re:UST Stablecoin Loses Dollar Peg by daenz on Tuesday May 10, 2022 @12:20AM (#31323415)
Is there a question in there?