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Re:We Can All Become Job Creators by ebiester on Wednesday October 19, 2011 @02:43PM (#3131472)
So, then, how do we increase the supply of "great people?"

I argue that there is a percentage in the agriculture, call center, and manufacturing industry, if given the six years of math and programming, could be top programmers. These same people would be motivated to do so, but have families to feed and mortgages to pay.

We have potential supply. We have demand. How do we get from A to B?

Re:We Can All Become Job Creators by randomdata on Wednesday October 19, 2011 @03:16PM (#3131614)
Well, therein lies the problem I see. I do agree that anyone can become a great programmer. But, If everyone is a great programmer, a small subset will be even greater programmers and all of the companies will want to wait to hire them. There is, again, no drive to hire just anyone.

I'm not certain there is any solution that can come from the top. However, hungry people always find a way. I do feel we'll eventually see some big shifts in the employment structure to deal with the problem, started from the bottom. It is not going to happen overnight though.

Re:We Can All Become Job Creators by ebiester on Wednesday October 19, 2011 @03:43PM (#3131722)
Hungry people often don't find a way.

Or rather, they sell drugs and rob houses. Or take those two minimum wage jobs and tell yourself "someday."

I have seen very few people pull themselves up by their bootstraps, so to speak. And this isn't an easy gap to fulfill.

Re:We Can All Become Job Creators by pcowans on Wednesday October 19, 2011 @03:26PM (#3131643)
Then we'll do more programming - I'm sure we've not run out of problems that can be solved through software.
Re:We Can All Become Job Creators by randomdata on Wednesday October 19, 2011 @03:38PM (#3131697)
That is one likely shift. That the great programmers, and people of all tech disciplines for that matter, will do their own great things, rather than be employed by someone else; who will only hire the really great. Again, there is no reason for employers to take on the risk of just a great programmer when they can wait for a really great programmer. Just being a great programmer will not be enough for employment.

However, right now, that is not a role the average American wants to take on, even if they have the skills. Much of our society is based around the idea of a stable income from being employed by others. People of HN are typically outliers in that regard.