Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll

Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by easytiger on Friday May 06, 2022 @07:55PM (#31290796)

The reduction from 30mph to 20mph in London is political CV padding and has had no real effect on outcomes. All based on Chinese whispers. Wouldn't be surprised if your comment ended up as an original source in Islington's justification for some thing or other. It's that flimsy

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Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by FabHK on Saturday May 07, 2022 @06:13AM (#31293381)

The effect is huge. Energy goes up quadratically, so here (4->9) you have more than doubling. Stopping distance goes up quadratically (well, due to reaction time there is a linear component in there as well, but still).

And if there is a sudden obstacle that you can just avoid hitting going 20mph initially, you'd hit it with 22 mph if you're going 30 mph initially (assuming no reaction time and constant deceleration).

I submit that that's a massive difference: hitting a child not at all or with 22 mph.

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Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by easytiger on Sunday May 08, 2022 @06:37PM (#31308704)

Things can be quantifiably described as "doubled" without that having any real world impact.

In my experience the people supporting these measures are adopting them not because they care about safety at all, but have another agenda.

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Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by hgomersall on Saturday May 07, 2022 @02:42AM (#31292626)

If it doesn't it's because it's not enforced. It's irrefutable that vehicles moving at 20mph are less dangerous than vehicles moving at 30mph.

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Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by easytiger on Sunday May 08, 2022 @06:31PM (#31308670)

> If it doesn't it's because it's not enforced. It's irrefutable that vehicles moving at 20mph are less dangerous than vehicles moving at 30mph.

Then make them drive at 1mph

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Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by stefan_ on Friday May 06, 2022 @08:07PM (#31290891)

Average speeds in London are below 20mph. Accelerating absurdly overweight, overpowered cars to anything over 20mph in between stops at lights is just a moral hazard.

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Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by easytiger on Sunday May 08, 2022 @06:31PM (#31308662)

> Accelerating absurdly overweight, overpowered cars to anything over 20mph in between stops at lights is just a moral hazard.

The level of absurdity in suggesting a moral element to driving a car at below 30mph just shows how fundamentally biased people have become about a normal part of everyday life. For whatever reason

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Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by stefan_ on Sunday May 08, 2022 @07:22PM (#31308950)

I think you just don't know what that term means.

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Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by easytiger on Monday May 09, 2022 @09:37AM (#31313832)

Absurd

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