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Ask HN: Why is Xcode so bad?

I have been a mobile dev for some years and I try my best to avoid using Xcode, the experience is simply unbearable, everything is anti-intuitive for somehow... same complaints can be seen everywhere, any reason why Xcode just can't be as good as other famous IDE like Visual Studio??
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Re:Ask HN: Why is Xcode so bad? by Daedren on Thursday May 05, 2022 @04:26AM (#31270933)
Apple's treatment of developers has been poor for ages now. And they know developers will adapt because they just won't (can't) leave the platform. Tim Cook's words in the Epic trial only made this perception clearer.

Reminder that we've only gotten our official package manager -two- years ago. Same goes for an API for the App Store Connect to actually have a proper end-to-end CI/CD process without private APIs and scraping.

That said, Jetbrains' AppCode might be a good option for you. It is miles better, but comes with shortcomings that you'll have to look at.

Re:Ask HN: Why is Xcode so bad? by ffhhj on Thursday May 05, 2022 @10:14AM (#31273612)
Because they want to make lots of money without investing in re-creating a tool with a better workflow, they know they'll probably get it wrong a second time. So it's better to transfer the technical debt to devs.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Xcode so bad? by take_it_not on Thursday May 05, 2022 @03:48AM (#31270718)
I also think Xcode has the worst dev experience among other modern IDEs/editors…
Re:Ask HN: Why is Xcode so bad? by take_it_not on Thursday May 05, 2022 @06:55PM (#31279281)
I do think that Xcode has the worst dev experience among other modern IDE
Re:Ask HN: Why is Xcode so bad? by take_it_not on Friday May 06, 2022 @01:24AM (#31281606)
they'll probably get it wrong a second time. So it's better to transfer the technical deb
Re:Ask HN: Why is Xcode so bad? by take_it_not on Thursday May 05, 2022 @09:31PM (#31280210)
Xcode is bad because it is bad