I live in the suburbs. And I’m anti-car in as much as we can and should do more to make cars less necessary for day-to-day life. Make schools walkable. Make basic shopping walkable. Build mix-use town centers instead of strip malls with acres of parking.

Doing these things frees up space for other things. That could be housing or green space.

And if there’s less traffic overall, it becomes easier to get out to the mountains/forest/etc.

I don’t disagree that true nature is different than groomed parks. And I like nature. But I’d rather not spend 3 hours in suburban traffic to get to the mountains that are 40 miles away.