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Re:Why I don't miss React: a story about using the platform by LAC-Tech on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @05:59PM (#31254154)
I think react sits really well with some people, and with others it doesn't. For me I find I have to fight against the platform to separate presentation from behaviour. And let's not kid ourselves, a lot of react code bases do the classic winforms mistake of having an essentially code behind architecture.
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Re:Why I don't miss React: a story about using the platform by datavirtue on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @06:18PM (#31254323)
And why was that a mistake?
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Re:Why I don't miss React: a story about using the platform by LAC-Tech on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @08:19PM (#31255362)
IME marrying business logic so closely to presentation makes it very hard to change one without the other. Especially relevant for web apps, where you may want to re-use business logic for mobile apps, which becomes very difficult when they're tied to a react component.

Also makes it harder to test. There's a great paper called "Naked Objects" which I'd recommend for anyone doing GUIs, but powerful idea I got from it is make your presentation code so immediately obvious from your business objects that you can practically generate it automatically.

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Re:Why I don't miss React: a story about using the platform by mst on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @10:40PM (#31256150)
Pawson's Naked Objects thesis is absolutely brilliant.

It proposes a complete approach of which not all of the parts will be useful for any given project, but it is -very- much worth reading even so.

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Re:Why I don't miss React: a story about using the platform by LAC-Tech on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @11:03PM (#31256288)
Hey, someone else on the internet who knows about it!

And yeah agreed, but I think we could all use some scantily clad objects at the very least.

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Re:Why I don't miss React: a story about using the platform by Sophistifunk on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @07:38PM (#31255024)
Because it was implemented via inheritance. Which is why the argument is BS, nobody does react like this. They specifically tell you not to do it, and I think there's a bunch of stuff in there to stop it from working.
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