On Form versus Meaning

Re:On Form versus Meaning by coolhoody on Monday May 02, 2022 @07:26AM (#31233756)

> AI system would not be able to understand what a chair is…

As per the Yoneda lemma [0] I've studied A Chair from all possible perspectives, but still do not truly understand it.

If I, say, take 3 atoms out of it — does it stop being a chair? And if not — what's the true limit of its chairness [1]?

I suspect the AI is, ironically, the only hope on the matter.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoneda_lemma

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

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Re:On Form versus Meaning by bangkoksbest on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @02:58PM (#31252114)

The meaning of words arises from the pragmatic context of their use: the speaker's intentions, the shared social and linguistic conventions, illocution, etc

AI, and especially the abstract and disembodied software artefacts that make up the more advanced AI we have developed, has almost nothing to do with any of that.

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Re:On Form versus Meaning by SemanticStrengh on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @03:26PM (#31252418)

This has to be a Vsauce reference https://youtu.be/fXW-QjBsruE

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