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Re:Adopting Matrix at the Gnome Foundation by octoberfranklin on Sunday May 01, 2022 @08:50AM (#31224615)
> My opinion is that the Matrix protocol is too powerful.

It's going to turn out like TheWeb(tm), where there are only one and a half clients to choose from and instead of a protocol with real standards you just get pseudocode documenting whatever the current version of the dominant client does.

IRC is an IETF standard. Matrix has gone the WHATWG route.

Re:Adopting Matrix at the Gnome Foundation by Arathorn on Sunday May 01, 2022 @10:08AM (#31225124)
This is not entirely fair - there are loads of very functional independent Matrix client implementations today already (Element, FluffyChat, Nheko, Hydrogen, Fractal-next, Neochat etc), and a growing number of independent server impls too (Synapse, Dendrite, Conduit, Polyjuice…).

It’s true to compare Matrix with WHATWG though - we used the model of WHATWG’s pragmatism as a direct inspiration for Matrix as an implementation-first approach, where we’d then write an open governance spec (having proven it worked) as per https://spec.matrix.org and eventually merge it into an established standards body like W3C or IETF when stable.

Re:Adopting Matrix at the Gnome Foundation by a1369209993 on Sunday May 01, 2022 @05:44PM (#31228985)
> there are loads of very functional independent Matrix client implementations []today[]

There used to be loads of very functional independent web browsers too. There still are, if you count "only works with websites that haven't been up^Wworsegraded in the past decade and a half" as "functional".

Re:Adopting Matrix at the Gnome Foundation by octoberfranklin on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @12:29AM (#31244629)
> there are loads of very functional independent Matrix client implementations

No, there's only one.

Matrix tries to confuse people by calling the important part of the client a "homeserver".

Re:Adopting Matrix at the Gnome Foundation by zaik on Sunday May 01, 2022 @10:50AM (#31225462)
If someone cares about internet standards they probably use XMPP instead of Matrix.
Re:Adopting Matrix at the Gnome Foundation by aaaaaaaaata on Sunday May 01, 2022 @09:47AM (#31224979)
> IRC is an IETF standard

v1?

v2?

v3?

Re:Adopting Matrix at the Gnome Foundation by octoberfranklin on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @03:13PM (#31252277)
TLS?

v1?

v1.2?

v1.3?

What is the point of your comment?