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Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal? by JohnHaugeland on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:23PM (#31212142)
The courts have repeatedly held that being past that point in an installer is evidence of consent, so take it up with them, I guess
Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal? by jhugo on Saturday April 30, 2022 @02:28AM (#31213852)
He's not past that point; he hasn't accepted the new terms yet. Did you read the OP?
Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal? by JohnHaugeland on Saturday April 30, 2022 @10:18AM (#31216242)
You're missing the point

He can return it, or he can consent

Nothing here is illegal. This structure is common, even though you guys are saying "that's absurd"

Your indignation and lack of familiarity does not change that this is well accepted in international law

Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal? by jhugo on Saturday April 30, 2022 @10:47AM (#31216470)
I never said anything is illegal. All I have done is point out why he has a legal right to return it, as not fit for purpose. Apparently we agree, since you said "he can return it, or he can consent".

> Your indignation and lack of familiarity does not change that this is well accepted in international law

There is absolutely nothing whatsoever in international law that is even remotely related to these issues. Consumer rights and sales contracts are national (and in many countries even sub-national, e.g. state) issues.

If you're going to make strong assertions and tell people they're "missing the point" it might be a good idea to a) properly read & comprehend the comments you're replying to, and b) actually know what you are talking about.

Re:Ask HN: Is the EULA on my new $30k RED cinema camera legal? by JohnHaugeland on Saturday April 30, 2022 @04:51PM (#31219206)
I'm sorry that you feel that you can enter a conversation, deny it, then reject the existing context of the conversation as something you didn't say.

You cannot.

Good day

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> it might be a good idea to a) properly read

I'd say the same to you, frankly.