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Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by toomuchtodo on Friday April 29, 2022 @07:48PM (#31211906)
It’s beauty is directly proportional to the revenue it generates.
Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by forgotmypw17 on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:48PM (#31212300)
In my experience, it is a strong reverse correlation, actually.

With few exceptions, I have almost never been paid to work on code that turned out to be something I was proud of. This is on of the reasons I dropped out of pro dev, despite it being easy money.

Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by EForEndeavour on Friday April 29, 2022 @10:01PM (#31212701)
What sort of work have you been doing since dropping out of dev?
Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by forgotmypw17 on Friday April 29, 2022 @10:31PM (#31212847)
I've been working on a system for making community websites.

You can see it on GitHub for now: https://github.com/gulkily/RocketScience

Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by xigoi on Saturday April 30, 2022 @09:06AM (#31215776)
> In particular, RocketScience has been tested with popular versions of Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, Internet Explorer, Opera, Firefox, Brave, Safari, and even Google Chrome.

I love this.

Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by dwaltrip on Saturday April 30, 2022 @12:55PM (#31217360)
How do you earn a living?
Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by forgotmypw17 on Saturday April 30, 2022 @08:06PM (#31220760)
I earn my living by looking for things which I believe need to be done, which help the overall state of things to the best of my knowledge, and then doing them without trying to be immediately and directly compensated for them. Some call this "karma yoga".

I recently posted a somewhat detailed comment about my practice, and linked to even more writing about it, which can be seen at this address: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31077742

Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by dwaltrip on Tuesday May 03, 2022 @04:28PM (#31253166)
That's very interesting. Thank you for sharing!
Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by metadat on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:01PM (#31211990)
Only on HN..

It depends whether you're a true craftsman, a capitalist, or somewhere in between.

I've seen some ugly crap code that made loads of money. Still pig lipstick imho.

Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by toomuchtodo on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:03PM (#31212009)
Beauty is perspective, no? Change the viewing angle, change how you see the piece, how you experience the art and how it makes you feel changes.

Revenue was probably the wrong word. Is it doing what it was intended to do? Does it do it well? That’s the beauty, not what it looks like in a text file.

(not a craftsman, not a capitalist, closer to a nihilist utilitarian with a pinch of hope)

Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by metadat on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:10PM (#31212062)
It is definitely a relativistic situation, and thank you for your generous reply, you made me smile :D
Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by toomuchtodo on Friday April 29, 2022 @09:23PM (#31212512)
The pleasure was all mine, I appreciated the conversation.
Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by junkypuppet on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:18PM (#31212112)
The client probably doesn’t care how clean the code is…all they want is to see it working and they’ll pay a lot of money for it. I’ve found it better to move fast and create code that gets the job done rather than spend more time on making “prettier” code that does the same thing from the client’s perspective.
Re:Ask HN: Is all code crap? by ydlr on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:04PM (#31212019)
Its an inverse correlation in my experience.