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Re:San Francisco’s “Housing First” Nightmare by jljljl on Friday April 29, 2022 @06:51PM (#31211508)
I'm curious about this -- is there data comparing the outcomes of Housing First vs. Shelter First solutions? My understanding is that Shelters are also major sites of violence, abuse, and overdose/drug use.
Re:San Francisco’s “Housing First” Nightmare by bifrost on Friday April 29, 2022 @09:12PM (#31212450)
San Francisco is the perfect example of what happens when you house addicts - they don't improve, continue the bad behavior, they destroy the housing and are often kicked out of it. We've got several examples a week of people making meth in their housing and creating a severely hazardous situation.

If you check out @bettersoma on twitter he's got a looooot of info about this.

Re:San Francisco’s “Housing First” Nightmare by alex504 on Friday April 29, 2022 @07:57PM (#31211966)
I am definitely not an expert, don't know about the data around shelters. My understanding of shelters is that they make it a lot harder to do drugs and that is why a lot of the homeless prefer camps. My understanding is that abuse, violence and drug use are reduced at shelters and that is the main advantage of them.
Re:San Francisco’s “Housing First” Nightmare by bifrost on Friday April 29, 2022 @09:09PM (#31212431)
The shelters usually require sobriety and don't have a good track record of dealing with violent people.