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Re:Belgian data retention law is about to criminalize Signal by Koffiepoeder on Friday April 29, 2022 @04:50PM (#31210433)
The bill includes a new law proposal that:

- Mandates metadata retention for ALL communication related services (including ISP's, apps like signal, etc), under very vague constraints

- Forbids strong encryption at rest. Failing to cooperate in decryption can also yield imprisonment.

Another, related newspaper article (Dutch, paywalled alas): "Chat app signal to be illegal through new data retention law" [0]

[0]: https://m.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20220429_94515802

Re:Belgian data retention law is about to criminalize Signal by Mo3 on Friday April 29, 2022 @10:39PM (#31212885)
> - Forbids strong encryption at rest. Failing to cooperate in decryption can also yield imprisonment.

What the fuck?

Re:Belgian data retention law is about to criminalize Signal by FrenchAmerican on Friday April 29, 2022 @11:03PM (#31212993)
Always the same arguments are used to justify invasion of privacy by governments: terrorism, pedo-pornography, human trafficking for sex (especially children).

Which are solid arguments but of course those laws are in 95% of the cases used for everything but the 3 reasonable causes mentioned.

Moreover, most of the time, the law grants access to police without decision by a judge, in the name of efficiency. In France, the proposal to trace what information is accessed by each policewoman or policeman has been rejected. So the misuses of the police databases are daily occurrences with total immunity.

Who knows what are the misuses of NSA databases in the US. I don't know at least but I don't think the Americans' privacy is an issue among NSA staff, nor for Congress. I may be totally wrong and would be happy to be enlightened on the matter.

Re:Belgian data retention law is about to criminalize Signal by ls15 on Saturday April 30, 2022 @02:23AM (#31213836)
It is the good old Fascist's playbook. The justifications are variable, the outcome is the same.
Re:Belgian data retention law is about to criminalize Signal by mananaysiempre on Friday April 29, 2022 @11:18PM (#31213058)
>> - Forbids strong encryption at rest. Failing to cooperate in decryption can also yield imprisonment.

> What the fuck?

I mean, Britain already has the second part, and in France failing to cooperate in decryption of your own stuff is an aggravating circumstance (but at least not a separate offense if you otherwise haven’t or can’t be proven to have done anything wrong).

(It’s still extremely short-sighted, just pointing out where the Overton window is at.)

Re:Belgian data retention law is about to criminalize Signal by hansvm on Sunday May 01, 2022 @12:57PM (#31226561)
It's an opportunity really. Preemptively put any information related to these politicians out in the open -- names, credit cards, whatever -- and cite this bill; you're assisting law enforcement by ensuring the data can be readily decrypted.
Re:Belgian data retention law is about to criminalize Signal by olliej on Saturday April 30, 2022 @03:10PM (#31218396)
This isn’t just signal: this is every iOS device, and all new macs sold in 5+ years.

I assume android is FDE only for similar amounts of time at this point?