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Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by mbg721 on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:02PM (#31207759)
Teaching happens in every interaction a child has in life.

If the purpose of schools is to undo the instillment of parents' values (or lack of them), we should at least be honest about it. That's the assumption behind most debates of this type.

If the purpose of schools is to teach specialized skills that most parents don't have, then we should cut the crap so that kids can learn them.

If the purpose of schools is to babysit kids so that their parents can be used as human batteries for Nestle and Kroger, then God help us.

Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by JaimeThompson on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:05PM (#31207803)
>Teaching happens in every interaction a child has in life.

Which means that having a law that says teaching human sexuality can't happen is impossible to do without turning the teachers into uncaring robot like beings.

They could have banned the teaching of sexually explicate material but they chose not to.

Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by rayiner on Friday April 29, 2022 @03:21PM (#31209578)
> Which means that having a law that says teaching human sexuality can't happen is impossible to do without turning the teachers into uncaring robot like beings.

How archetypally liberal to define the difference between humans and “uncaring robot like beings” in terms of being able to talk about “human sexuality.” It’s really an obsession isn’t it.

Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by JaimeThompson on Friday April 29, 2022 @03:30PM (#31209665)
The word sexuality has a specific meaning that is much broader than you are giving it credit for.

http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=*&Query=sexuali...

We are, after all, talking about a law and a legal system where definitions are somewhat important.

Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by rayiner on Friday April 29, 2022 @04:43PM (#31210360)
So relying on a real dictionary, M-W, I get: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sexuality

> Definition of sexuality : the quality or state of being sexual:

> a : the condition of having sex

> b : sexual activity

> c : expression of sexual receptivity or interest especially when excessive

I don’t think I’m being a prude in saying that third graders shouldn’t be learning about any of this.

Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by mbg721 on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:15PM (#31207959)
What conservatives want (and can't say) is to prevent schools from telling young children that families without two opposite-sex parents are normal, when their parents disagree with that. That's fundamentally a value-judgment that doesn't have a black-and-white answer, but if it's interfering with math class, they have a point.
Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by JaimeThompson on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:20PM (#31208052)
A same sex teacher having a wedding ring on or mentioning their spouse during math class would be teaching the kids about same sex relationships. It it was interfering with classes they would be showing examples of it but, to my knowledge and research, they haven't shown this.
Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by rayiner on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:39PM (#31208373)
You should read the actual text of the law. It's directed to "instruction" on "sexual orientation" or "gender identity." It's meant to prevent an off-hand mention of someone's same-sex spouse from turning into a discussion of sexual attraction and sexual orientation.
Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by JaimeThompson on Friday April 29, 2022 @02:33PM (#31209010)
All activities in the classroom typically fall under the category of instruction not just the formal segments. This law is one of those laws meant to be used against the wrong people while ignoring when the correct people do the same sort of things.
Re:The Contractual Impossibility of Unwinding Disney’s Reedy... by mbg721 on Friday April 29, 2022 @02:55PM (#31209257)
Teachers by definition act in loco parentis; if parents disagree with other adults about values, that's a separate issue, but teachers shouldn't be overriding kids' parents on ideology.