Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beautifying photo-filters

Re:Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beau... by sokoloff on Friday April 29, 2022 @07:26AM (#31203792)

I don’t read anything in GP’s text as defending prejudice, but rather as expressing the reality that judgment (not pre-judgment) is both legal and widely practiced (and frequently helpful or essential in interactions).

If I’m hiring for a programming opening, the entire (and proper) purpose of interviewing is to discriminate against people who can’t or won’t be effective programmers.

Being “not an effective programmer” is not a protected class and discriminating against them is fine when hiring programmers.

“But, but, but that’s not discrimination!” Yes, it most certainly is in the “recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another” sense, and is very likely what GP meant when they wrote:

> Essentially every non-random decision affecting treatment of people discriminates on some basis.

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Re:Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beau... by leereeves on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:11AM (#31204134)

Did you really think that I was suggesting it wasn't ok "to discriminate against people who can’t or won’t be effective programmers"?

I think that's a strawman, but a useful one. It helps to establish the bounds of reasonable judgement in hiring. I think most people will agree that "can't or won't do the job" is reasonable.

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Re:Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beau... by sokoloff on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:14AM (#31204158)

I’m struggling to find where else in dragonwriter’s words you could be finding support for prejudice. It’s less of a strawman than it was a simple example of where discriminating among multiple candidates is okay.

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Re:Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beau... by leereeves on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:20AM (#31204203)

> It’s less of a strawman than it was a simple example of where discriminating among multiple candidates is okay.

Why add such an example here? No one has claimed that discriminating among multiple candidates is never okay.

I'm simply challenging the idea that the law is a useful guide as to whether discrimination is ok.

I like a phrase you used. Decisions should be based on "judgment (not pre-judgment)".

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Re:Hacking attractiveness biases in hiring? The role of beau... by sokoloff on Friday April 29, 2022 @09:03AM (#31204561)

It definitely seems like we agree here; I was thrown off course by [perhaps my interpretation of?] your words: “I'm surprised to see you defending prejudice.”

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