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Re:What Computer Science Programs Should Teach by ghoshbishakh on Friday April 29, 2022 @02:48AM (#31202144)
Most scientist in any field don't really push the state of the art. But yes it is their job to push it. If you take a look at computer security, then cryptographers and computer security scientist constantly push the state of the art.

Some areas of CS are already very much polished compared to others. For example computer networks is much stable than machine learning.

Re:What Computer Science Programs Should Teach by cinntaile on Friday April 29, 2022 @03:00AM (#31202202)
My interpretation is that the article is just talking about people with a bachelor's or master's degree in computer science. In the same vein I just call them computer scientists, but they are different from people that do science at a university. I expect scientists at universities to push the state of the art.
Re:What Computer Science Programs Should Teach by ThrowawayR2 on Friday April 29, 2022 @10:48AM (#31205878)
> "My interpretation is that the article is just talking about people with a bachelor's or master's degree in computer science."

Like Linus Torvalds or Theo de Raadt, both BS holders IIRC? A bachelor's degree from a good CS program is enough to prepare anyone who studies well to do what they did.

Re:What Computer Science Programs Should Teach by cinntaile on Friday April 29, 2022 @11:13AM (#31206190)
That wasn't my claim either so I'm unsure why you point this out? You don't even need a degree to push the state of the art.
Re:What Computer Science Programs Should Teach by feoren on Friday April 29, 2022 @03:22AM (#31202346)
One of the exciting things about the immaturity of software engineering is that you don't need a Ph.D. and years of study to push the state of the art. You just need to get pissed at that stupid library why is it doing it this way UGH FINE I'LL WRITE MY OWN!

Grats, you're pushing the boundary of the discipline.