It's not just them sadly. I think the only one who I've seen who isn't guilty of this is Fly.io.

They build cool shit, they blog about their cool shit, because it's cool shit.

(Render founder) I haven't seen a single Render employee or investor post on HN about the Heroku incident; this comment is the first we've participated in any discussion on the topic. I'd love to see links if you can share.

Well here is you (with your disclosure) participating in a discussion on the topic a few days ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31053504

You’re as capable as I am of searching HN for mentions of your service.

He's responding to someone who specifically mentioned their experience using Render. I don't consider that shilling. I personally like seeing that kind of direct engagement from founders on HN.

Yeah, that’s not shilling, but it is in direct opposition to what they stated in their comment here about not participating in any discussions about Heroku.

I’m calling attention to my inability to trust this person and their company’s marketing tactics.

What should HN do? People are free to downvote it until it's dead. That seems a more democratic way to handle it.

I'm such a HN normie does HN even have a downvote button? I can't find it

You need 501 karma points to downvote!

Here's a list of all hidden HN features: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#downvo...

Oh wow I had no idea thank you!