Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources
by Sebb767 on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @02:14PM
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> That is solely and utterly because of Tesla. The reason for the demand was to build electric cars which Tesla and only Tesla, building butt load of BEVs required. Everybody else before Tesla showed up was either making hybrids with minuscule capacity requirement or low range BEVs in low volumes.
And so did Tesla with it's roadster. The model S was/is also a lower-volume, high price luxury car; it's only the model 3 that really changed this. Also, the increased demand was relating to BEVs; some of which is surely due to Teslas offering, but a lot definitely came from recent trends against ICE cars and increasing prices.
> Again, all because or Tesla. They are all riding on Tesla’s success.
Hard disagree. The Nissan Leaf has been around since 2010, and so have manufacturers like BYD. Just take a look at the list of production BEVs [0] (the smaller manufacturers are actually missing from there, since they're not production vehicles). Tesla wasn't the first to market and didn't create it on its own. I'm not disagreeing that they pushed the field or that they generated a lot of hype, but the market would exist with or without Tesla.
Also, sidenote:
> Why do you think Rivian IPO was greater than century old car makers marker cap making multi million number of vehicles a year where Rivian made none?!! Tesla.
Hype and market insanity, really.
> That is a pointless statement you can say about anyone at any time in history which is to say nothing. You can’t go back in time and let this play out by someone else. Elon is the one who did all this and we’re stuck with this history.
Which is completely fine. Having Elon is surely a net positive. But attributing all progress in the BEV space and space sector just to him is simply wrong.
And so did Tesla with it's roadster. The model S was/is also a lower-volume, high price luxury car; it's only the model 3 that really changed this. Also, the increased demand was relating to BEVs; some of which is surely due to Teslas offering, but a lot definitely came from recent trends against ICE cars and increasing prices.
> Again, all because or Tesla. They are all riding on Tesla’s success.
Hard disagree. The Nissan Leaf has been around since 2010, and so have manufacturers like BYD. Just take a look at the list of production BEVs [0] (the smaller manufacturers are actually missing from there, since they're not production vehicles). Tesla wasn't the first to market and didn't create it on its own. I'm not disagreeing that they pushed the field or that they generated a lot of hype, but the market would exist with or without Tesla.
Also, sidenote:
> Why do you think Rivian IPO was greater than century old car makers marker cap making multi million number of vehicles a year where Rivian made none?!! Tesla.
Hype and market insanity, really.
> That is a pointless statement you can say about anyone at any time in history which is to say nothing. You can’t go back in time and let this play out by someone else. Elon is the one who did all this and we’re stuck with this history.
Which is completely fine. Having Elon is surely a net positive. But attributing all progress in the BEV space and space sector just to him is simply wrong.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_production_battery_ele...