Re:Manganese could be the secret behind truly mass-market EVs
by numbsafari on Monday April 25, 2022 @09:21PM
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In the case of the F-350, it’s about towing and load capacity.
Sure, you want to project a certain image, but you might also need to tow Very Large Objects.
This is definitely not the case for the Hummer, which has less tow capacity than an F-150.
Re:Manganese could be the secret behind truly mass-market EVs
by kube-system on Monday April 25, 2022 @09:25PM
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The F-350 starts at a 5,677 lbs curb weight. [0]
Which is ~2.8 US tons, or ~2.6 metric tons.
The heaviest possible configuration is 8,587 lbs, which is still "only" 3895 kg, or 3.9 metric tons.
[0]: https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-duty/models/f350-xlt/
Re:Manganese could be the secret behind truly mass-market EVs
by Tagbert on Monday April 25, 2022 @09:29PM
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Correct. I was looking at a source that put it just under 6000 pounds and did a goofball swap to tons. I do know that a ton is 2000 pounds but somehow it came out wrong.
Re:Manganese could be the secret behind truly mass-market EVs
by mc32 on Monday April 25, 2022 @09:17PM
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F-350s, those have many uses, among them, tow trucks, utility trucks/service trucks, boat towing, etc. I suppose some people use them as their daily driver, but I doubt that's the majority of the fleet.
Re:Manganese could be the secret behind truly mass-market EVs
by rootusrootus on Monday April 25, 2022 @10:36PM
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> I suppose some people use them as their daily driver, but I doubt that's the majority of the fleet.
I agree. There are, of course, a few people that drive an HD truck as a daily, but it's not the majority by any means. They make awful daily drivers. Very thirsty, bouncy, steers like an aircraft carrier, etc. But for towing, they're pretty great.
Re:Manganese could be the secret behind truly mass-market EVs
by briffle on Monday April 25, 2022 @11:12PM
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You would be surprised. My Ram 2500 has coil spring suspension, and rides better than most sedans. And gets better mileage than my early 2000’s midsize truck. But yeah, the Subaru is much cheaper per mile to drive.
Re:Manganese could be the secret behind truly mass-market EVs
by yeetsfromhellL2 on Tuesday April 26, 2022 @05:28AM
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>This kind of vehicle is meant to look big and imposing to project a certain image.
Actually modern trucks got so big to get around Obama-era fuel efficiency standards.
BTW The Ford F-350 starts at around 2.5 tons curb weight so this Hummer is not without precedent. This kind of vehicle is meant to look big and imposing to project a certain image.
(Edit:as Kobe-systems mentioned, I mangled the conversion on the F-350 weight. Corrected)