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Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by disqard on Monday April 25, 2022 @01:43PM (#31158245)
It's hard to tell whether you're being serious....

A single tweet is so incredibly bloated and inefficient for transmission through space, that it would not have any chance of arriving uncorrupted on the other side.

"If you open that tweet in a browser, you'll see the page is 900 KB big. That's almost 100 KB more than the full text of The Master and Margarita, Bulgakov’s funny and enigmatic novel about the Devil visiting Moscow with his retinue (complete with a giant cat!) during the Great Purge of 1937, intercut with an odd vision of the life of Pontius Pilate, Jesus Christ, and the devoted but unreliable apostle Matthew.

For a single tweet."

(https://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm)

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by rory on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:05PM (#31158521)
Cool dunk on the GP but it seems obvious that they didn't mean literally send the tweet to Mars as an HTML page with full Javascript bundle.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by munk-a on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:48PM (#31159049)
I don't know if that seems obvious. They were talking about twitter the social media platform... I can't think of a single thing twitter has got going for it outside of the size of the message, and the size of the message isn't a huge advantage considering often times users use image macros rather than text (which completely destroys the space efficiency) and you could easily just have, say, size limited facebook posts or something similar.

Honestly, I stand by my estimation that interplanetary communication will probably primarily be done over email.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by rory on Monday April 25, 2022 @03:14PM (#31159349)
I'm not defending the central point-- I agree with you that the primary means of interplanetary communication will be email.

It's just helpful to discussion if we don't assume others are expressing the stupidest possible iteration of the ideas they describe.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by forgotmypw17 on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:18PM (#31158677)
The problem with a centralized service like Twitter is that there is absolutely no guarantee that you will be able to access it through any particular means.

For example, my only means of accessing Twitter are either through the bloated Web UI, which is unusable on most of my devices, or through Nitter, which is read-only and sometimes doesn't work due to Twitter's API limitations.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by teawrecks on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:04PM (#31158508)
It's hard to tell whether you're being serious. This site is criticizing the response size of an http request to view one tweet, not the size of the actual tweet.

In the context of interplanetary communication, sending the tweet from a server on mars to a server on earth would be a tiny packet containing a payload no bigger than the char limit, and some metadata. Browsing the website on earth would fetch from the servers on earth, and might still be 100KB, but no one cares about optimizing that bandwidth usage.

Idk if this is that much different from the original telegram at this point though. Sending tiny messages using limited bandwidth between two places. Eventually we'll widen that bandwidth sufficiently, it's just latency that probably won't ever surpass the speed of light. Also the problem of timestamping tweets when relativity is involved.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by motoboi on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:02PM (#31158473)
Yeah, but nothing stops you from serving twitter.com from a CDN on Mars for Mars users, right?

They'll even have netflix, if you think about it. Not youtube thought.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by munk-a on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:09PM (#31158570)
Unfortunately they'll only have access to the old style disk Netflix and those envelopes will come with a hell of a postage cost on them. /s

More seriously, I don't know why you assume Netflix would be accessible or a priority for settling on Mars - or that Youtube wouldn't be.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by motoboi on Monday April 25, 2022 @03:26PM (#31159476)
Netflix is served from a Netflix openconnect appliance inside your ISP datacenter, not from the cloud.

They just send one to Mars and it’s good to go.

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by memetomancer on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:16PM (#31158651)
because Netflix data is measure in GB / week, while Youtube is measure in TB / second.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by munk-a on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:25PM (#31158767)
I assume that the primary conveyance of data would just be a hard drive (or other storage method) actually sent to mars with the mission. Just like the bundle of wikipedia you could order on a CD, curate stuff of particularly high quality and send it with the crew.

For live transmission I think signal issues will cause everything to need to be pre-buffered basically to completion so streaming is not a realistic thing to consider. For instance, twitch is probably just flat out unless we have some pretty insane developments in general data transmission reliability (probably including FTL data transmission which, who knows, might some day be possible through entanglement).

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by scrumbledober on Monday April 25, 2022 @01:48PM (#31158294)
right but the content of the tweet is much smaller than the javascript bundle that twitter.com sends users...
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by kradeelav on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:09PM (#31158568)
I might be remembering wrong but I think early on (pre 2015?) twitter had the capability to send tweets via SMS texts. I wouldn't know the size comparison, but if they re-added that feature, it feels like an easy way to cut the bloat.
Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by smotched on Monday April 25, 2022 @02:05PM (#31158522)
hes talking about just the text. Why on earth would anyone send that whole bundle back and forth. It would live on mars and you just update new tweets(texts).