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Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by FireBeyond on Monday April 25, 2022 @10:03AM (#31154896)
> where literally the CEO of VW said that VW was not able to produce vehicles as fast

Musk's RDF in full effect here.

That quotation was about quality control - and Tesla's relatively abysmal QC compared to other production lines.

VW's CEO said that an average VW took nearly 30 hours to come off the line, versus approximately 10 for Tesla.

He also said that they're targetting 20 hours in the next decade. Huh. They're not even trying to beat Tesla, there. Wonder why? Maybe it's so they don't deliver cars with mismatched tires, leaking sunroofs, _missing brakepads_, and so on.

I think it's hilarious that people like you believe with a straight face that a $250B/year production line hasn't fired up a spreadsheet and done the numbers on costs of "implement another line, so we can spend more time on each car and push more out in parallel" (VAG manufactured 8.4M vehicles in 2021 versus 900K for TMC), than "hey, if we just cut some more corners, and deal with things after the fact, it'll be cheaper".

Re:Twitter set to accept Musk's $43B offer – sources by panick21_ on Monday April 25, 2022 @10:32AM (#31155374)
So what? If they target 20 or 10h doesn't matter. The fundamental point is that they clearly outperform VW there their CEO admits it and they are doing major investments to catch up.

And the claim that you need 10h for quality control is utterly ridiculous. The reason they likely are not targeting a lower number is because their production centers are far more distrusted and they don't have full vertical integration from battery cells to cars in one building.

There are other possible explanation. You can't just assert whatever you want without any evidence at all.

If VW has a higher quality standard then Tesla (questionable) then that fine. That literally changes nothing about my argument about production argument.

And Tesla quality issues have been far less in Shanghai were they have faster production then in Fremont. We have yet to see if Berlin will have production issues.

And outside of VW or whatever. Its unquestionable that Tesla made major gains in manufcaturing that is a competitive advantage. So the claim that Musk is dumb because he wanted to increase automation or simply wrong.

The idea that they cut 20h of production by 'cutting corners' is just a delusional take. Sorry. If that was possible do you think GM would not have done that in the 2000s. Do you think Nissan wouldn't have done it?

Tesla first attempt at that automation was wrong, but they adjusted and actually did make real innovations. Denying that is just making you look silly and uninformed.