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Re:The candy stores of Oxford Street by jl6 on Monday April 25, 2022 @05:57AM (#31152424)
Few are willing to say it outright, but the objective is not to discourage them from getting into small boats, but to discourage them from coming at all.

The UK remains nominally committed to providing asylum for people who fear for their lives in their home country, so the latest scheme is designed to call the asylum seeker’s bluff: “we will guarantee your safety, but it will be in Rwanda”. Anyone genuinely fearing for their lives will presumably be happy to take the offer of safe haven. The economic migrants presumably will not.

Re:The candy stores of Oxford Street by sonthonax on Monday April 25, 2022 @07:06AM (#31152887)
Refugees' lives are rarely at risk. The reason that refugees leave 'safe' camps is that they, more often than not, will live with with the prospect of living their whole lives in a tent and subsisting off WFP rice bags. It's incredibly grim; life expectancies in long established camps are often under 45. Technically these people are economic migrants.

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Re:The candy stores of Oxford Street by morelisp on Monday April 25, 2022 @07:24AM (#31153027)
> Refugees' lives are rarely at risk... It's incredibly grim; life expectancies in long established camps are often under 45.

Sounds to me like their lives are at risk, just more slowly than previously.

"Economic migrants" is a category invented to justify atrocities. After you've financialized basic necessities, of course the the reasons for "migrating" are economic!

Re:The candy stores of Oxford Street by an9n on Monday April 25, 2022 @10:59AM (#31155798)
And what is the solution then when the population of the UK is 100 million, Or 200 million, and more still want to come? The government already lie about the genuine population because the numbers are so alarming. There has to be an upper limit on the desirable population of the UK before life becomes miserable: this is a small island and already one of the most densely populated places on earth in parts and little space to expand without further significant impact, no genuine wilderness, increasing pressure on the pockets of decent biodiversity left etc. etc.
Re:The candy stores of Oxford Street by vidarh on Monday April 25, 2022 @05:17PM (#31160743)
Residential housing take up only ca 5 percent of UK land. The only reason it's that high is due to huge amount of low density housing (e.g. my terraced road w/houses and gardens take up ca. 40,000m2, near my local station the same number of people will soon be housed on ca. 2,000m2). Space is not an issue. Other infrastructure, maybe, but UK is going to need increasing amounts of immigration over coming years to offeset below replacement fertility rates to prevent a demographic crisis.

With fertility rates plummeting worldwide, there's no realistic scenario where the UK will be overrun.

Re:The candy stores of Oxford Street by xxpor on Monday April 25, 2022 @04:38PM (#31160285)
There's plenty of room if there's still single story buildings in London.