Is XMPP any good? Also, let's write a client in Tcl, maybe

Re:Is XMPP any good? Also, let's write a client in Tcl, maybe by hot_gril on Monday April 25, 2022 @12:07AM (#31150652)

Only if you switch to JSON the way they describe in the joke XEP https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0295.html where they force XML into JSON form instead of properly redesigning the messages.

I think most people agree that XMPP messages are hard to read during debugging, and this is somehow not a problem in any of the JSON-based protocols.

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Re:Is XMPP any good? Also, let's write a client in Tcl, maybe by Andrew_nenakhov on Monday April 25, 2022 @04:03AM (#31151706)

No. Please, stop it.

XML is not a problem. Parsing it is not a problem. Reading it is not a problem, too. None of the problems ever faced by us in the development of XMPP software would have been solved if it was switched from XML to JSON, nor made even a slightly easier to solve.

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Re:Is XMPP any good? Also, let's write a client in Tcl, maybe by wusspuss on Sunday May 08, 2022 @08:40PM (#31309350)

Literally half the OP article along with half the comments here explain how XML is a problem, how it is not equivalent to any other serialization format, etc. IMO the funniest example is stanza ids. That problem wouldn't exist even if they just used said XML in a remotely sane manner. But they really wanted to go all in on it. It's the XML mindset, the need to complicate things.

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