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Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by PaulDavisThe1st on Sunday April 24, 2022 @10:12AM (#31144165)
"End Police Violence" has been a slogan in fact. It didn't really do much, precisely because not enough people who consider themselves unaffected by the risk of police violence were drawn in by it.

By contrast "Defund the Police" definitely generated a "say what?" response from just about everyone, whether you agreed with it or not.

As for the political power thing ... given the difficulty that existing politicians and political bodies have in exerting control over police authority, the idea that any new group would somehow be able to actually accomplish anything remotely close to abolition is crazy. Look at what happened in Minneapolis as an illustrative example: probably the closest to "actual abolition", and it just fizzled out completely.

Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by sokoloff on Sunday April 24, 2022 @10:36AM (#31144395)
What you heard as a “say what?” was a politely phrased “you guys haven’t thought this through” in a lot of cases.

“Think different”, “Think outside the bun”, “Just Do It” are good “say what?” examples. I don’t think “Defund the Police” accomplished the goal to make curious and enlist fence-sitters to the cause and instead likely pushed more people towards supporting their police departments.