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Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by hardrcafe on Sunday April 24, 2022 @09:26AM (#31143743)
At least it has a track record of creating coherent, functioning civilization the world over since time immemorial.

Can’t say whatever we have today looks all that compelling, and I say this as a “winner” with a high salary, owned home, wife, and children.

I think of a future beyond my ability to retire to Margaritaville. What future lies for my daughters and sons?

A hedonist utopia that denigrates and denies the most basic human imperatives? To build a family? Why would I want that for them?

Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by notpachet on Sunday April 24, 2022 @10:39AM (#31144424)
I think too much attachment to humanity, in its historical incarnation, is misplaced. Those periods of coherent, functioning civilization may end up just being the gentler slope of the asymptote before things started going nuclear. The same underlying tendencies have always been present in us, they just weren't manifesting at the same scale.

"Coherent and functioning" sounds great, but in practice that coherence was usually bought on credit, by pushing negative social externalities somewhere out of sight. Those externalities are more easily ignorable when the boundaries of the world are smaller. Just push the trash into the river; just tie the witch up in the forest. Just shut up and marry, girl.

Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by UncleMeat on Sunday April 24, 2022 @10:49AM (#31144528)
"Functioning" is a word for it, I guess.

I really don't think I'd describe a system where 50% of the population has basically zero rights to be "functioning."

Re:No one expects young men to do anything and they are resp... by wpietri on Sunday April 24, 2022 @11:15AM (#31144810)
A surprising number of people in the 50% who get extra privileges seem fine with it.