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Re:Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) by usrn on Saturday April 23, 2022 @07:07PM (#31139559)
Debian is still Systemd based. If you want to get away from that you need something pretty bizarre like Alpine or Gentoo.
Re:Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) by chartreusek on Saturday April 23, 2022 @09:32PM (#31140447)
You can install a sysvinit based stock debian if you wish. I've done it a few times recently, on low memory systems (<512MB) it does make a noticeable difference. It's mostly supported in terms of running, though the install is a bit manual:

https://wiki.debian.org/Init

There's also instructions for converting a running system, but I've had no luck with that. It just resulted in an unbootable system for me as it couldn't fully remove systemd there.

Re:Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) by walrus01 on Saturday April 23, 2022 @07:08PM (#31139563)
edited post, didn't mean that I have a problem with systemd, just all the extra stuff that canonical has created as "launch on boot" daemons/services which are unique to ubuntu only and no other linux.
Re:Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) by tomc1985 on Saturday April 23, 2022 @07:46PM (#31139839)
Very frustrating just how much CPU/memory a blank Ubuntu install uses while idle vs Debian. For largely the same resulting system. I always prefer Debian because of crap like that.
Re:Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) by webmobdev on Saturday April 23, 2022 @08:03PM (#31139947)
There's also Devuan - https://www.devuan.org/ - A debian Frok without systemd. Don't know how well maintained it is though.
Re:Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) by imiric on Saturday April 23, 2022 @07:37PM (#31139765)
Devuan is an option too. It's Debian without systemd and gives the choice of SysVinit, OpenRC or runit.
Re:Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) by nine_k on Saturday April 23, 2022 @10:42PM (#31140810)
I personally have a few years of good experience with Void Linux.
Re:Firefox on Ubuntu 22.04 from .deb (not from snap) by stjohnswarts on Saturday April 23, 2022 @10:12PM (#31140670)
Sure but systemd doesn't bother most people. Some of the arch based options also let you get away from systemd without a whole lot of effort.