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Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by robomc on Friday October 14, 2011 @10:54PM (#3113818)
Anyone got a 'why not Sinatra' for this?
Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by joshbuddy on Friday October 14, 2011 @10:58PM (#3113826)
Essentially, it let's you take something like

  before '/blog/:id' do
    @blog = Blog.get(params[:id])
  end
  
  get '/blog/:id' do
    @blog
  end
  
  put '/blog/:id' do
    @blog.update_attributes(params)
  end
and turn it into

  path 'blog' do
    var do |id|
      @blog = Blog.get(id)
      get { halt @blog }
      put { @blog.update(request.params); halt :ok}
    end
  end
I feel this is DRY'er than the Sinatra representation. It also has nice integration with Rack itself. The implementation is very simple, easy to get into.
Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by judofyr on Saturday October 15, 2011 @10:15AM (#3114851)
Here's the same in Camping, using plain Ruby:

    class Blog < R '/blog/(\d+)'
      def service(id) @blog = Blog.get(id); super end
      def get(id)     render :blog end
      def put(id)     @blog.update_attributes(@input) end
    end
Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by lobster_johnson on Saturday October 15, 2011 @06:35PM (#3115982)
What I discovered recently when doing a new Rails 3 app was that the RESTful CRUD stuff is all boilerplate. This is true about Sinatra apps, too: Every GET, POST, PUT and DELETE are just wrappers around find, create update and destroy. I used Rabl for generating JSON, so it was possible to write a single serialization for all objects. So why not just boil everything down to the minimal code required?

Something like this:

    handle '/blog'
That's it. This makes some assumptions:

* That /blog maps to a class Blog which it can load and save. * That you either use "fat models" (with callbacks that munge data and perform actions when data changes) or external observers (like ActiveRecord's observers). * That the model supports all four CRUD actions.

When you want additional verbs:

    handle 'GET /blog/search' do
      MySearchEngine.search(params[:q])
    end
Or object-specific ones:

    handle 'GET /blog/:id/search' do |blog|
      MySearchEngine.search(params[:q], :blog_id => blog.id)
    end
In fact, aside from extra verbs, you could get away with no code at all, since you could introspect the database layer to discover which classes are mappable.

My app is a JavaScript-based single-page HTML5 web application using Backbone, so there is almost no server-side frontend code, meaning my app is basically a server-side database anyway.

Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by nakajima on Saturday October 15, 2011 @10:55PM (#3116392)
I wrote something like this a while back: https://github.com/nakajima/sinatras-hat It's no longer maintained, but it was fun to see how many assumptions I could jam into one framework.
Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by lobster_johnson on Sunday October 16, 2011 @05:55PM (#3118415)
That's pretty cool!
Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by soveran on Saturday October 15, 2011 @11:20AM (#3114943)
The same in Cuba (http://cuba.is):

    Cuba.define do
      on "blog/:id" do |id|
        blog = Blog.get(id)

        on(get) { res.write blog }
        on(put) { blog.update(req.params); res.write :ok }
      end
    end
Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by seanp2k2 on Saturday October 15, 2011 @01:40PM (#3115293)
These all seem like good ideas in their own way. I say "it's great that we have all these useful ways of doing similar things!". Choose whatever best fits your application. I really like that this type of stuff is catching on over Rails.
Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by DanielRibeiro on Friday October 14, 2011 @10:59PM (#3113829)
Yes. But they say why: http://reneerb.com/concept
Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by robomc on Saturday October 15, 2011 @12:08AM (#3113979)
Right, I guess that sort of rewriting of CRUD situations would be nice in some cases.

Although in real applications, most of your methods are complex enough that you'd want them to be multiline blocks, at which point it would start to get really ugly IMO.

Anyway it sounds like I'm being more critical than I actually am I think.

But my un-DRY annoyance with Sinatra isn't writing multiple blocks with route declarations for CRUD methods, so much as not being able to refer to those routes in your views abstractly. ie., if you decide you want to change from /comments/:id to /awesome-comments/:id, it's a headache.

I assume there are plugins to fix that annoyance, but I'd have like Sinatra to generally have routing more abstracted from specific URL paths.

Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by nesquena on Saturday October 15, 2011 @12:14AM (#3113995)
Yeah we agree regarding route generation being important. We came up with a decent solution to it for Renee, let us know what you think: http://reneerb.com/route-generation and time will tell but we think the combination of clearer routes, leaner code and url generation makes renee a fun alternative.
Re:Renee, the friendly rack-based framework by joshbuddy on Saturday October 15, 2011 @12:17AM (#3114009)
It's also easy to split a Renee application into multiple parts, but, I'd really like to address this more going forward, to make it easier.