Re:Is XMPP any good? Also, let's write a client in Tcl, maybe
by seba_dos1 on Saturday April 23, 2022 @08:39AM
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> 5 more years later there's maybe one client that implements the modern features (Conversations for Android IIRC), and that's about it.
...and yet I'm using three different modern clients that work well with each other.
> And it's an unknown how many servers implement those features.
Enough to make me not have to care about it.
Re:Is XMPP any good? Also, let's write a client in Tcl, maybe
by MattJ100 on Saturday April 23, 2022 @12:56PM
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> And it's an unknown how many servers implement those features
It's not: https://compliance.conversations.im/tests/
Obviously a new user is not expected to fathom what all this means before getting started, which is why there are curated lists of public XMPP services, e.g. https://providers.xmpp.net/ and https://joinjabber.org/ and for private servers there are projects like Snikket where the server software is developed in parallel with apps to ensure a consistent feature set.
The problems is that many of these modern features were unbelievably late.
I still remember "The State of Mobile XMPP in 2016", https://gultsch.de/xmpp_2016.html
At the time, 9 years after iPhone had come on the scene, most modern features were still experimental draft proposals implemented by no one.
5 more years later there's maybe one client that implements the modern features (Conversations for Android IIRC), and that's about it.
And it's an unknown how many servers implement those features.