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Re:The bottom is dropping out of Netflix by ProAm on Friday April 22, 2022 @12:15PM (#31123556)
> Stop stealing our shit.

While I agree with your sentiment, you can also make a better product. This is an easy fix with some of the smartest minds in the industry. People showed Netflix early on they were willing to PAY for ease of use.

Re:The bottom is dropping out of Netflix by Stunting on Friday April 22, 2022 @12:18PM (#31123623)
100 percent agree. Voting with dollars is the fastest and best way to make better products.

The big studios know how many people are watching their stuff via theft. They are going to keep producting low end crap with studio friendly sponsorships, because piracy will have taught them that is a better business model.

Pay of the things you want to see and you'll see more of them.

Re:The bottom is dropping out of Netflix by ben-schaaf on Friday April 22, 2022 @12:34PM (#31123945)
> Pay of the things you want to see and you'll see more of them.

Where can I pay for a streaming service with no geo-blocking, no DRM quality limitations on Linux, offline viewing and all the shows/movies I want to watch? Seems the only way to vote with my wallet is to refuse to pay, which morally isn't really different to piracy.

Re:The bottom is dropping out of Netflix by Stunting on Friday April 22, 2022 @01:01PM (#31124446)
Refusing to pay and refusing to consume is different morally from stealing.

I don't know where to find all those requirements. Perhaps they exist. If they are that big of a dealbreaker for you, don't consume the value provided by entertainment services.

When you decide that the exact moral high point is to consume the goods and services while still maintaining integrity about not providing the cash value asked of those things, you are justifying being a thief.

Re:The bottom is dropping out of Netflix by ben-schaaf on Friday April 22, 2022 @09:00PM (#31130280)
For one it's piracy, not theft. They are both legally and morally distinct. You're being deprived of a potential future profit rather than having a direct loss.

> When you decide that the exact moral high point is to consume the goods and services while still maintaining integrity about not providing the cash value asked of those things, you are justifying being a [pirate].

Correct, it is justifying being a pirate. The justification being exactly what you suggested: voting with my wallet. I want to watch a certain piece of entertainment, but it's producer has made it unreasonably unobtainable thus pirating it signals that it is both desired and that a sale was lost.

I think you're being angry about the wrong thing here. Consumers don't want to pirate; they are pushed to piracy by shit service. That's not a fault of the consumers, that's a fault of the seller. If you actually want to reduce piracy you should be advocating for better service rather than telling people they're stealing from you.

Re:The bottom is dropping out of Netflix by JohnTHaller on Friday April 22, 2022 @12:23PM (#31123709)
You're responding to a stuntperson who, unfortunately, has no control over the distribution of the product they worked on.
Re:The bottom is dropping out of Netflix by ProAm on Friday April 22, 2022 @01:08PM (#31124581)
> You're responding to a stuntperson who, unfortunately, has no control over the distribution of the product they worked on.

And he is yelling at us, which also have no control, he should be yelling at the people he works for that do have control.

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Re:The bottom is dropping out of Netflix by ProAm on Friday April 22, 2022 @03:33PM (#31126929)
:) I know you're not yelling, more figure of speech. (did not mean to offend) But this is on HN where we allow pay-wall bypassing for all articles (which is also theft) so you wont get sympathy there. Like I said I agree with your sentiment, its just not the way to fix it. And I dont think it's a difficult problem to solve, especially from an extremely profitable and rich company.
Re:The bottom is dropping out of Netflix by Stunting on Friday April 22, 2022 @12:29PM (#31123837)
Yet. I do have minor creative input depending on the production. When an audience shows they enjoy something I am able to argue more fiercly to include a similar thing into the next one.

And someday I'll be makign my own productions.