The Birth of Tcl

Re:The Birth of Tcl by radarsat1 on Friday April 22, 2022 @07:10AM (#31120235)

When anti-semites or alt-right people or other hate groups decide to adopt an arbitrary, commonly used sign (like, the "ok" symbol [1]), is the correct reaction to stop using that sign, basically giving it to them, or is the correct reaction to use it as much as possible in non-racist/x-ist contexts, to dilute the intended co-option? Honestly I don't really know the answer. I completely understand avoiding it to not have your comment or action taken out of context, as the risk of personal damage is high, but on the other hand I don't feel that society should just "give away" common symbology just because some hate group decides to take it. How can this be fought?

[1]: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/26/us/adl-new-hate-symbols/i...

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Re:The Birth of Tcl by chakkepolja on Friday April 22, 2022 @09:21AM (#31121231)

I am curious as to what most westerners react when they see a Hindu swastika? Is it common knowledge that there's a Hindu/Buddhist swastika or is it percieved as Nazi swastika?

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Re:The Birth of Tcl by cafard on Friday April 22, 2022 @09:51AM (#31121503)

It was a Native American symbol also. It was on the insignia of the 45th Division, a National Guard unit from the American southwest; but as WW II approached, it was swapped for a thunderbird.

Kipling used a Hindu swastika on his books. He also, I believe, discontinued this with the rise of the Nazis. Don't those arms point counter-clockwise, though?

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Re:The Birth of Tcl by chakkepolja on Saturday April 23, 2022 @04:44AM (#31132498)

Buddhist swastika is counterclockwise. Hindu Swastika is clockwise. None of them are tilted like Nazi swastika, though.

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Re:The Birth of Tcl by cafard on Saturday April 23, 2022 @09:26PM (#31140419)

Ah. Then it was the Buddhist swastika Kipling used.

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