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Re:Show HN: I built a website to find nearby cafes to work r... by bko on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @02:03PM (#31100704)
"Marketing" usually means getting people to know about your product or service and getting them through the door.

If the owner has people sitting there and wants them to purchase more, that's more increasing average revenue per user which is limited. How much coffee can someone drink? If someone drinks a plain coffee, getting them to upgrade to a higher margin sugary drink is hard. You can push food and snacks, but that's also limited since you're not a restaurant and the person can only eat so many pastries or dry goods. For every one customer sitting down there are likely 10 customers that come in during that time. Why focus on the person sitting down?

Getting more people in the door is probably an easier way to get more revenue. Especially considering the amount of people that can sit around all day versus the amount of people that can walk by and pick up a cup of coffee to go. In that regard, competition is definitely a huge factor. If a coffee shop has a 15 minute wait while another one is 5 minutes, I would likely pick the faster one. You can prefer one brand to another, but service is a huge factor.

Re:Show HN: I built a website to find nearby cafes to work r... by Firmwarrior on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @02:50PM (#31101272)
If it turns into a cold and customer-hostile transaction, I'll just brew my own cup of coffee at home for 80 cents
Re:Show HN: I built a website to find nearby cafes to work r... by JanSt on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @05:02PM (#31102957)
Yeah sounds like a MBA coming in and ruining a business by targeting the wrong metrics. Success comes by providing a lot of value, not by pushing as many people through the door as possible through creating an uncomfortable situation so the customer leave quickly.
Re:Show HN: I built a website to find nearby cafes to work r... by clairity on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @02:12PM (#31100818)
yes, getting more people in the door was the point--a marketing problem, not a competitive one. what you don't want to do is give people a reason to eschew your shop with customer-hostility, which compounds rather than alleviates the marketing problem.