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Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by vaylian on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @07:40AM (#31095443)
Also interesting: Sony sold laptops with hardware-based virtualization disabled:

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/12956/sony_disabled_cpu_virtu...

It's unclear why they did that, but preventing DRM circumvention might be one reason.

Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by usrn on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @07:43AM (#31095479)
IME most consumer laptops (that aren't Chrome books which have definitely taken over) at best have virtualization turned off (so you can turn it on, potentially breaking some Windows thing.)

I've given up on any kind of pre-built piece of consumer electronics more complex than a microwave and newer than the original iPhone at this point. Something happened and it's impossible to get anything that doesn't actively fight you.

Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by Tijdreiziger on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @08:46AM (#31096058)
> (so you can turn it on, potentially breaking some Windows thing.)

Actually, you must turn it on if you want to use Hyper-V and/or WSL2.

Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by joenathanone on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @10:10AM (#31097192)
Windows 11 licensing requires oems to sell machines with it turned on. MS uses it for a security feature called core isolation.
Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by vaylian on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @08:13AM (#31095743)
> at best have virtualization turned off (so you can turn it on, potentially breaking some Windows thing.)

Yes, but there was no way to turn it on (as the linked article explains)

Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by erwincoumans on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @08:28AM (#31095880)
Doesn't Apple M1 support hardware virtualization? Ubuntu arm64 seems to run at full speed under the hypervisor (Parallels etc), no software emulation.
Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by mobilio on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @09:33AM (#31096688)
They even have framework in OS for that: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization
Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by Workaccount2 on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @09:38AM (#31096756)
I think the issue from an OEM perspective is that if their product isn't fighting the consumer, the consumer will use the product to fight them. Which isn't totally unfounded.

Apple doesn't want to spend the man hours (or charge the cost) of unfucking iphones that regular consumers fucked with all the freedom they have.

Don't mistake this post as a defence of Apple or the like. It's merely a recognition of the issue from their side.

Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by officeplant on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @10:28AM (#31097454)
Apple lets people fuck their devices regularly with their app choices. The appstore doesn't protect anyone against malicious apps that pass validation. I don't see how its any worse than letting us sideload after tapping through a scary warning.
Re:That time Sony installed rootkit software on thousands of... by ineedasername on Wednesday April 20, 2022 @10:01AM (#31097067)
There's an easy solution for this: Make it clear in settings what the risks are if you screw up your device, and also what the repair cost will be. And then charge enough to cover the cost of training new technicians and their salaries.