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Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by rectang on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @05:21PM (#31089387)
I blame it on people blaming it on culture, biology, interest — which says "you aren't here because you don't belong here". And then people nope the hell out out of tech and go into other industries.
Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by zebnyc on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @06:24PM (#31090143)
Can you clarify what actions that you would like employers to take? AFAICT, employers are trying to out reach to marginalized communities and meet them where they are. How are companies supposed to hire without compromising quality? Are you suggesting a quota based system similar to the green card system?
Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by rectang on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @07:05PM (#31090545)
To tie things back to the article... how about looking at what Coca Cola did right?

I suspect one thing they did was avoid making the assumption that hiring candidates from marginalized communities compromises quality.

Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by monocasa on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @09:56PM (#31091878)
I mean, they're based in Atlanta which is about 50% black.
Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by ryan93 on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @07:30PM (#31090747)
Does coca cola have the same standards for generic corporate employees as google or facebook require of their engineers?
Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by rectang on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @07:46PM (#31090880)
First, "generic corporate employees" seems like a pretty disrespectful way to describe the Coca-Cola employees classified as "professionals".

Second, it's not like non-FAANG tech companies, despite lower standards for engineering positions, have higher numbers in the Black, Hispanic, or female demographics.

Third, if you look at the data for Coca Cola's "Exec/Sr Officials & Managers" where the "standards" without question are comparable to those at tech companies, the percentages aren't as high but they're still way better than you see in tech leadership:

> 3.37% - Black or African American Male

> 4.31% - Black or African American Female

Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by ryan93 on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @08:30PM (#31091269)
Not comparable to engineering at faang. Coca Cola sells itself. Still Coca Cola is way racist. America is 13% black.
Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by runako on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @10:43PM (#31092203)
> Coca Cola sells itself

This is an interesting way to contrast Coca-Cola with FAANG, of which the majority are routinely under antitrust scrutiny. Put another way: does Coca-Cola (market share: 43%) sell itself any more than Google (market share: 92%)?

Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by ryan93 on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @10:58PM (#31092328)
what does that have to do with the intellectual ability requited to get a google engineering jobs vs a marketing gig at coca cola?
Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by runako on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @11:01PM (#31092343)
You were implying that Coca-Cola sells itself and therefore doesn't require singularly talented employees. It's a reasonable question to ask why a monopoly needs to hire unicorns to keep its business functioning.

(Aside from which: most tech companies are probably on the order of 60% non-engineers. The "engineer" part is a common bit of misdirection to elide the presence of the majority of FAANG employees, who are not engineers. People who can successfully sell plain water can probably sell other things too.)

Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by ryan93 on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @06:35PM (#31090271)
Source for these industries with a bunch of black former programmers?
Re:Show HN: Employees.fyi – Easily compare U.S. workforce de... by zebnyc on Tuesday April 19, 2022 @07:07PM (#31090552)
Pretty sure if you mandate these policies, it would violate the Equal Employment Opportunity act